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    Hope the draft class next year is good

    Maybe we should draft a college senior with our first pick so we actually have pool money (sorry, kinda bitter that we may not sign him)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    So we’ll add basically zero impact talent to the organization this year by not signing Stewart and then our international limitations. Yikes.
    Jenista has been playing well so far, at least

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    Not signing Carter would suck big time. Either his physical sucks or AA is being cheap and is playing hardball which he may lose. As sucky as Coppy was he probably just gives in and signs him. Carter is a very good arm so I’d just up it to 4.5 million and be done with it. Get it done AA.

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    It's amusing to see everyone freaking out about not signing Carter, it's not like he is some generational talent we are missing out on if he doesn't sign. He was one of the better prospects in a draft class that was seen as lacking top end talent but being fairly deep with solid guys. He's a solid prospect and all, but we would get the #9 next year in a draft where we would have more flexibility to use the funds due to use having all of our picks (and the slot money that brings). It's not like this is some crushing loss if he doesn't sign, we lose very little (unless he turns into an Ace down the line of course, but equally as much chance the #9 pick next year does that as him).

    I know people like to melt about everything on here, but the extreme melting here is kinda weird, particularly with the injury concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Managuarantano's Volunteers View Post
    Hope the draft class next year is good

    Maybe we should draft a college senior with our first pick so we actually have pool money (sorry, kinda bitter that we may not sign him)
    Early reviews indicate that it will be a draft class loaded with college impact hitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Wait, so we lose Stewart and then drop from #8...to #9 also next year?? Perfect.
    The Braves would be picking in the late 20s next year - the 2019 draft order will be based on 2018's finish.

    The #9 pick will be added as compensation if Stewart doesn't sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Would this mean the Braves have an extra $5M in the MLB budget at the deadline?
    Others have said in the past that they're treated completely separately, and that savings from the draft or international signing budgets wouldn't be applied somewhere else like payroll. Never explained why though.

    Do think that's an interesting question though. One would assume that the big brass was given a number from Liberty to spend on all operations, and that it was to be used at their discretion. So long as they didn't need to exceed that number (like when Medlen and Beachy blew out on back-to-back days and Santana needed to be signed), you would figure they could use the money however they saw fit. If AA's backed into $5 million they thought was going to be given to an 18 year old who decides not to take it, I'm not sure why he couldn't use it toward a rental to make a playoff push either.

    He wouldn't be spending more than was in the initial budget in that situation, but apparently that's not at his discretion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    It's amusing to see everyone freaking out about not signing Carter, it's not like he is some generational talent we are missing out on if he doesn't sign. He was one of the better prospects in a draft class that was seen as lacking top end talent but being fairly deep with solid guys. He's a solid prospect and all, but we would get the #9 next year in a draft where we would have more flexibility to use the funds due to use having all of our picks (and the slot money that brings). It's not like this is some crushing loss if he doesn't sign, we lose very little (unless he turns into an Ace down the line of course, but equally as much chance the #9 pick next year does that as him).

    I know people like to melt about everything on here, but the extreme melting here is kinda weird, particularly with the injury concerns.
    It’s not freaking out. A top ten pick not signing IS a big deal.

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    If we don't sign Stewart, his wrist issue better have been "arm trapped under boulder 127 Hours style"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    It’s not freaking out. A top ten pick not signing IS a big deal.
    It would be if we completely lost the pick but that's not going to be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Others have said in the past that they're treated completely separately, and that savings from the draft or international signing budgets wouldn't be applied somewhere else like payroll. Never explained why though.

    Do think that's an interesting question though. One would assume that the big brass was given a number from Liberty to spend on all operations, and that it was to be used at their discretion. So long as they didn't need to exceed that number (like when Medlen and Beachy blew out on back-to-back days and Santana needed to be signed), you would figure they could use the money however they saw fit. If AA's backed into $5 million they thought was going to be given to an 18 year old who decides not to take it, I'm not sure why he couldn't use it toward a rental to make a playoff push either.

    He wouldn't be spending more than was in the initial budget in that situation, but apparently that's not at his discretion.
    But theoretically wouldn't we need to pocket that money to spend on the #9 pick next year? Since we'd have an additional first round pick to spend on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    But theoretically wouldn't we need to pocket that money to spend on the #9 pick next year? Since we'd have an additional first round pick to spend on.
    Yes but we have an enormous amount of payroll flexibility next year (only like 30 million committed) whereas this year we're apparently tapped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    But theoretically wouldn't we need to pocket that money to spend on the #9 pick next year? Since we'd have an additional first round pick to spend on.
    Well next year we will have a lot of money coming off the books to where we could easily budget that in if necessary.

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    Another negative of not signing Stewart -- It could impact our picks next season. Even though we would gain the #9 pick next season, we also are expecting to be active in the free agent market this coming offseason. If we sign a player who rejected a qualifying offer, we would be giving up our third-highest pick. If we have two first round picks next year, that means we'd be forfeiting our second rounder. If we sign Stewart now and only have one first rounder next year, we'd be forfeiting our third round pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    If we don't sign Stewart, his wrist issue better have been "arm trapped under boulder 127 Hours style"
    I love James Franco, but I don't think he's much of a baseball player.

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    The wrist issue seems like a negotiation tactic to me

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    The Braves have only failed to sign their first round pick one time since 1965.

    Chad Hutchinson of all people in 1995.

    AA getting off to a great start. He's got the new inefficiency.
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    IIRC, if we don't sign Stewart we lose his slot money. That means no Hess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    It would be if we completely lost the pick but that's not going to be the case.
    I know it’s not the end of the world, but it is a big deal and rare for a top ten pick. I just hope it’s more about the injury and less about us rolling the dice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    I know it’s not the end of the world, but it is a big deal and rare for a top ten pick. I just hope it’s more about the injury and less about us rolling the dice.
    If it's a legit injury that they found out post draft then I have no problem if he's signed or not. If it's just the Braves hard balling him then that's really crappy.

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