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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    They're league average which sure as hell doesnt equate to top 5 QB.
    How on god's green earth do you think this way?

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    Wilson isnt top 5. Hes uniwue bc hes a lot like a game manager but does make a few plays a game.

    Why I dont believe hes top 5 is bc when they are down and have to throw, he typically cant do that. But hes a good enough "game manager on steroids" that thats not often the case. I would have to put him 7-11 range tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I agree with thethe. I struggle putting him in the top 5 with other quarterbacks that put up similar passing statistics, but while having to throw 15 times more per game.

    But, on the other hand, he has no receivers.
    Baldwin, Kearse, Richardson and Luke Willson are underrated, and that Lynch guy.

    He has plenty of weapons.

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    Its going to be fascinating to see how the Seahawks build the team with Wilson making big money. Schneider is going to have his work cut out for him but he's built such a deep talent base that they should be great again next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Baldwin, Kearse, Richardson and Luke Willson are underrated, and that Lynch guy.

    He has plenty of weapons.
    In comparison to other "great" QB's is a joke to compare the WR options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    I stopped giving credence to this when you listed Bowe as a "good" anything.

    He won't have all the say, but KC is more talented than their fans let on.
    I agree the the Chiefs have more talent than many of the fans believe, but that has nothing to do with Scott Pioli.
    the fact is that the Chiefs currently only have seven players on their roster who he drafted, and that includes Eric Berry. This includes having a top ten pick twice. To take it a step further, I have seen Zito say several times the Falcon's biggest weakness is depth. Well, one player Pioli drafted after the 3rd round is still with the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    How on god's green earth do you think this way?
    He attempted the 19th least passes of starters.

    He simply isnt asked to do as much as other QB's, simple as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Its going to be fascinating to see how the Seahawks build the team with Wilson making big money. Schneider is going to have his work cut out for him but he's built such a deep talent base that they should be great again next season.
    Their core on defense is locked up for the next 3-4 years assuming they pay Wagner.

    But if Wilson is the highest paid QB, they'll have to give in somewhere, cant pay everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Baldwin, Kearse, Richardson and Luke Willson are underrated, and that Lynch guy.

    He has plenty of weapons.
    lynch is a great running back.
    Those receivers, while likely underrated, would still be considered worse than any other top 10 QB has to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Baldwin, Kearse, Richardson and Luke Willson are underrated, and that Lynch guy.

    He has plenty of weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Im not saying he has great weapons or elite ones, but they arent bottom-5 bad by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    lynch is a great running back.
    Those receivers, while likely underrated, would still be considered worse than any other top 10 QB has to work with.
    Most likely true, evens out with their great defense.

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    There is something to be said of a QB that doesn't have to worry so much because of how great the defense is. I will agree with that point. Wilson doesn't go into any game thinking he HAS to play great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    He attempted the 19th least passes of starters.

    He simply isnt asked to do as much as other QB's, simple as it gets.
    Duh.

    But that doesn't preclude him from being a great QB let alone a good QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Most likely true, evens out with their great defense.

    Does he get to throw to his defense?

    Otherwise that doesn't even out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Most likely true, evens out with their great defense.
    This makes ZERO sense, again....him being 7th in Y/A has NOTHING to do with Seattles D. He put up those numbers with a bottom 10 WR core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Does he get to throw to his defense?

    Otherwise that doesn't even out.
    Expectations and pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Duh.

    But that doesn't preclude him from being a great QB let alone a good QB.
    I think Wilson is very, very good but the fact of the matter is he's not asked to get into shootouts or do as much as others.

    Most of the time if he turns it over, they hold to FG's or get him the ball right back.

    Thats all im saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    This makes ZERO sense, again....him being 7th in Y/A has NOTHING to do with Seattles D. He put up those numbers with a bottom 10 WR core.
    Right and he doesnt need to score 30+ PPG a game like some QB's do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Expectations and pressure.
    How do you even begin to qualify that?

    Aside from the fact that there is literally zero evidence of those being significant.

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