"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
BedellBrave (11-12-2016)
I would say that standing up and protesting, calmly in place is more of an adult reaction that walking on the highways, burning and looting. I could be wrong
Hawk (11-12-2016)
How do you reason that?
In the previous discussion we had about this I also referenced her Senate record and her 08' campaign, both of which were indisputably liberal. I welcomed anybody to refute my assertion that she was consistently liberal and that the 'moderate' label was out of tune with reality (and definition), out of genuine curiosity for what examples might be proffered of her 'moderate' policy positions.
But, to address your first post ... do I think it was probable that a Hillary win would have yielded fertile ground for the growth/expansion/initiation of many of the progressive ideals of the Democratic party (such as challenging parts of the 2nd amendment)? Absolutely.
I mean, that's the very nature of contemporary politics, so I guess your point is a bit lost to me.
Last edited by Hawk; 11-12-2016 at 07:31 PM.
So, let me get this straight, Trump said if he lost he wouldn't accept the results because there was foul play involved, but if he won, which he did, then he would accept the results and you think the fact that he won could only possibly mean that everything was on the up and up?????
By the way, I don't think there was any foul play involved either way, the Repubs just ran a smarter, harder fought campaign and did a MUCH better job at getting their people out to vote and while I'm OK with the Dems marching and protesting (peacefully) if they want, I don't think it does anything but make them look worse and more clueless.
I don't totally agree with you, I mean standing there in place and protesting really isn't all that feasible, but yes expecting them to march in a peaceful, non-destructive manner that doesn't step on the rights of anyone else isn't, or at least shouldn't be, too much to ask. After all burning and looting isn't marching or protesting, it's a crime, IMO, period.
As much as I have been against Trump, he and his team really did something remarkable - and somewhat Reaganesque. Should we call the rust belt folk Trump Democrats? And from the little I read he did better with Hispanics, blacks and women than pundits imagined. In my mind turning MI, PA, WI all red was remarkable. He tapped into the fear and angst out there and fueled it and won those votes away from the out-of-touch both in the Republican and Democrat parties.