Hollywood/Political Sex Offense Scandals (Now Louis CK and AL-GOPSenateNom Roy Moore)

[Krgrecw]

If the age of consent was 14 at the time, the dude is in the clear.

[57Brave]

If the age of consent was 14 at the time, the dude is in the clear.

The Hoarse Whisperer‏ @HoarseWisperer
16h16 hours ago

The Hoarse Whisperer Retweeted Judd Legum

As a judge, Roy Moore cast the lone dissenting vote in an 8-1 decision essentially arguing against the legal premise of statutory rape.

[Jaw]

I don’t look for heroes in the entertainment industry. I haven’t since I was a kid. If they do good work, it’s still good work and I’d like to see it. If it’s crap I don’t care if they’re a saint. Personally I resent these social issues suddenly being interjected into everything and endless new allegations coming out some of them going back 40 years or possibly more.

Let’s move forward and clarify expectations for safe working environments in the future while keeping in mind due process and the rights of all parties involved. Enough with the skeletons.

Agreed on not looking for heroes. Nevertheless, Tom Hanks seems like a genuinely great guy. i don't feel that way about many people I don't know. I would find it really sad to know that perception was wrong.

[57Brave]

I take it you find the Judge "troubling"
you keep finding ways to shift the convresation

or maybe you don't

[Jaw]

I take it you find the Judge "troubling"
you keep finding ways to shift the convresation

or maybe you don't

I mean, I thought this made it pretty clear what my thoughts are on Moore's actions (if true) and those who shrug them off:

"Other than being with an underage person - he didn't really force himself," . "I know that's bad enough, but I don't know. If he withdraws, it's five weeks to the election...that would concede it to the Democrat."

-Alabama Geneva County GOP chairman Riley Seibenhener

What an asinine statement. Aside from the obvious moral failure of his reasoning, I'm pretty sure the GOP could put me on the ballot in Alabama and win. The basic requirements for election are
1. Have an R beside your name
2. Don't be a sexual deviant

[57Brave]

You are "troubled" I get it

[sturg33]

Goodness, 57. You love in your own reality

[Jaw]

Seems like the more appropriate thread to ask this question.

I know nothing about any of these new allegations. But am curious - it seems like we're dangerously auto-assuming guilt these days, and I think that invites a lot of fake allegations.

We see it all the time with fake hate crimes. Now I can imagine any woman coming forward to take down a powerful man either for money, attention, or simply ruining the reputation of someone she may not like.

Just my $0.02. I know it's not popular in today's #metoo controversy of the month

Yeah, that's way too rational. Don't you realize there is an election next month?


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/o...4&rref=opinion
After the story’s publication yesterday, the most common reaction from other Republicans was a conditional condemnation that revolved around the words “if true.” A spokeswoman for Vice President Mike Pence said, “If true, this would disqualify anyone from serving in office.” Mitch McConnell’s statement was similar.

It’s a wholly insufficient response.

I understand why senators might make their immediate response conditional. Maybe they didn’t yet read the story. But once you have read the story, there is only one decent response: Moore, the Republican nominee to become Alabama’s next senator, needs to quit the race immediately.

The “if true” response wrongly suggests that there will be some final reckoning of facts to remove any doubt about what Moore did. But there won’t be. He will likely continue denying the allegations, and people will have to choose between The Post’s reams of evidence and Moore’s lack of it.

John McCain showed what an ethical response looked like, and he didn’t need long to issue it:

“The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of.”


I have no idea if Moore is guilty. But I do find it interesting that The Land of the Free is supposed to condemn this guy for not having proof of his innocence from 38 years ago.
I doubt that I could prove my innocence 38 days ago.

I included the McCain quote simply because it amuses me how much progressive media like him again, and how he continues to bend the knee to them even after they turned on him during his presidential run.

[acesfull86]

I think his special was already recorded. Just a matter of if Netflix will make it available to watch. Which at this point won’t be for a long time.

Via TheRinger:

Netflix will no longer produce a previously planned second stand-up special with C.K. (the first, Louis C.K. 2017, debuted on the streaming service in April). At this time, Netflix will not remove C.K.’s previous stand-up specials from its library.

F***!

[mqt]

If the age of consent was 14 at the time, the dude is in the clear.

Legally, sure. Still not a guy you'd want running the country.

[jpx7]

Via TheRinger:

Netflix will no longer produce a previously planned second stand-up special with C.K. (the first, Louis C.K. 2017, debuted on the streaming service in April). At this time, Netflix will not remove C.K.’s previous stand-up specials from its library.

F***!

The fact that there is pressure to do so—to effectively censor these folks' entire oeuvre, whether CK or anyone else, by pressuring distributors et al to remove access to their past work—is one place where these otherwise good moments (of victims speaking out) hedge towards the witch-hunty. Woody Allen has done some creepy **** as a person, but Stardust Memories is still a phenomenal film; I support those who want to personally boycott his work—and even actors and producers and production houses that want to actively avoid working with him (or other creepers and abusers) now or in the future—but I also support the continued availability of the work that's already been produced.

I also think we can admit there is a hegemonic culture of creepiness and abuse-enabling, while also still parsing out the individual severities pertaining to each case.

[Julio3000]

Legally, sure. Still not a guy you'd want running the country.

Look at it as a purely economic proposition. Entertainment companies decided that being associated with Kevin Spacey was bad for their bottom line. But national Republicans (with some notable exceptions among those out of power, electorally dead, or literally dying) see Roy Moore as a crucial vote for an agenda that is worth billions to the people who keep them in office. Hooray.

[goldfly]

If the age of consent was 14 at the time, the dude is in the clear.

this is how far the republican party has fallen where this is the response

[Julio3000]

The fact that there is pressure to do so—to effectively censor these folks' entire oeuvre, whether CK or anyone else, by pressuring distributors et al to remove access to their past work—is one place where these otherwise good moments (of victims speaking out) hedge towards the witch-hunty. Woody Allen has done some creepy **** as a person, but Stardust Memories is still a phenomenal film; I support those who want to personally boycott his work—and even actors and producers and production houses that want to actively avoid working with him (or other creepers and abusers) now or in the future—but I also support the continued availability of the work that's already been produced.

I also think we can admit there is a hegemonic culture of creepiness and abuse-enabling, while also still parsing out the individual severities pertaining to each case.

I think it's worth the parsing. Woody Allen has been dead to me as an artist-- in terms of my personal entertainment dollar--since the creepy personal revelations emerged, but I don't personally hold it against people who want to make a case for his body of work. The idea of purging someone's back catalogue or backlist seems rather Stalinesque and reactionary.

[thethe]

One of moores accusers worked at the dnc. CONSPIRACY!!!!

[Runnin]

If the age of consent was 14 at the time, the dude is in the clear.

He's toast.

The hypocrisy is especially juicy. This is the The Ten Commandments guy, the "moral authority" judge.

[Runnin]

One of moores accusers worked at the dnc. CONSPIRACY!!!!

thanks for the laugh this morning.

[Krgrecw]

George Takei is the Asian Bill Cosby it seems

[goldfly]

He's toast.

we are talking about the christian republican south

they don't care about this as long it is their guy. that "R" is all that matters

this guy should have been put in his place a long time ago with his stance and he's a known pedophile now and they will still vote for him

[cajunrevenge]

So who are we going to be "shocked" by next? Pat Patterson? Vince McMahon? Ric Flair? Bill Clinton? These people are all widely known to take advantage of people for sexual purposes. Its about as much as a secret as a bible thumping Republican being gay.