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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It actually doesn't make sense to hire a GM then hire a president. The order should be reversed with the new president given the opportunity to hire a GM.
    Presuming that Hart is on his way out. Presuming that Schuerholz is just, at this point, a figurehead.

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    Hart sticking around at this point would surprise the hell outta me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Hart sticking around at this point would surprise the hell outta me
    I mean, cockroaches would survive a nuclear apocalypse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    So Moore as President and Alex Anthopoulos as GM
    better options are out there
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    The expectation is that penalties will be levied before next month’s Winter Meetings, but also that Braves ownership probably will install someone in the GM role prior to that. The Braves’ preference is Royals GM Dayton Moore, who was groomed as an executive in the Atlanta organization. But presently Royals owner David Glass is not allowing Moore to leave his contract to take this job.
    If Glass does not change his mind in the short term, the Braves in the next week or two are expected to pivot and hire a GM from among a group that has been quietly interviewing the past few weeks.
    Currently, Hart is not expected to be penalized by MLB for having a role in the misdeeds, which are expected to cover areas outside the international forum as well. However, it would be no surprise if ownership wants a clean break from the previous regime and moves on from Hart after a new GM is hired.
    http://nypost.com/2017/11/07/the-gia...r-realization/

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    What a joke if hart is still here. Same can be said for JS. I'm ready for a new era of braves baseball.

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    I didn't know where to put this but I guess this is as good a thread as any since we're all talking about the ineptitude of this organization generally.

    I hate SunTrust Park. I’ve never been there. It’s brand new. I’m sure a lot of thought went into its design, and I’m sure it has its perks. All the new ballparks have their perks. I don’t care about the SunTrust Park design or amenities. I care about the SunTrust Park technology. And the pitch-tracking data from SunTrust Park is garbage. It’s horribly calibrated, and it makes a project like this super annoying. I looked at dozens and dozens of potential worst called strikes. The bulk of the candidates were thrown in Atlanta, and all of them were off. By, like, several inches, in different directions. That’s been aggravating for me, today, but there are also some broader implications.

    Pitch locations feed into a lot of the data we like to use. And if you can’t trust the pitch locations, you can’t trust the data. Incorrect locations would affect, say, zone rates. They’d affect chase rates. They’d affect framing metrics. I hope that people smarter than me are aware of this. I hope they’re working to fix this, if they haven’t already. There’s no excuse. In its initial year of existence, SunTrust Park was messed up. Not in a way many people would ever notice, but *I* noticed, and right now I’m the one writing.
    So... even if we got an analytically savvy GM and/or staff, our tracking data is so bad it can't be relied upon. Laughable.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...-the-season-2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramadon101 View Post
    I didn't know where to put this but I guess this is as good a thread as any since we're all talking about the ineptitude of this organization generally.



    So... even if we got an analytically savvy GM and/or staff, our tracking data is so bad it can't be relied upon. Laughable.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...-the-season-2/
    I enjoy a lot of fangraph stuff but most of their writers remind me of the the slightly crazy IT guy at your office that you dread talking to. All that build up to just to ramble on about a bad strike call in a blow out game. It's pretty common knowledge that in blow out games the strike zone changes to speed up the game. That's something every little leaguer learns.
    Full disclosure I didn't read all of the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    I enjoy a lot of fangraph stuff but most of their writers remind me of the the slightly crazy IT guy at your office that you dread talking to. All that build up to just to ramble on about a bad strike call in a blow out game. It's pretty common knowledge that in blow out games the strike zone changes to speed up the game. That's something every little leaguer learns.
    Full disclosure I didn't read all of the article.
    You didn’t even get the basic jist of what Ramadan quoted. FG routinely does those worst strike/ball articles because they are mildly amusing, which has nothing to do with the legitimate complaint that that data coming from suntrust might be garbage.

    In the Braves defense...is it the team’s responsibility to calibrate the statcast system in their ballpark? Or does the manufacturer do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You didn’t even get the basic jist of what Ramadan quoted. FG routinely does those worst strike/ball articles because they are mildly amusing, which has nothing to do with the legitimate complaint that that data coming from suntrust might be garbage.

    In the Braves defense...is it the team’s responsibility to calibrate the statcast system in their ballpark? Or does the manufacturer do it?
    I understand they write a lot of articles like this. I do like a lot of what they write. I just think their writers tend to ramble sometimes. I did go back and read a little more. He lost me again when he told us he used MS paint to mark up his pictures. Did I really need to know that?

    I did enjoy his rant about the statcast system at Suntrust. I wish someone would drive deeper into that topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramadon101 View Post
    I didn't know where to put this but I guess this is as good a thread as any since we're all talking about the ineptitude of this organization generally.



    So... even if we got an analytically savvy GM and/or staff, our tracking data is so bad it can't be relied upon. Laughable.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...-the-season-2/
    Or, we could be extremely analytical and this be an intentional ruse. We could throw off the pitch tracking with built-in, predetermined errors that are synced to a proprietary algorithm that only we know. We could then reverse the algorithm to get the actual data out, denying useful data to the rest of MLB to give us the minor advantage of having approximately 3% more reliable data than the other teams.

    But this is the Braves, so it's more likely just a loose screw somewhere.

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    Anyone watching the MLB Network Presents on the 90’s Indians?

    Albert Belle: “John Hart screwed up the Indians dynasty.”

    A lot of interviews with Hart. He’s so full of ****.

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    How did Jon Hart ruin the Indians dynasty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian22 View Post
    How did Jon Hart ruin the Indians dynasty?
    Belle was bitter that he got traded in the middle of the run.

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    Belle was never traded.

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    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...land-last-week

    Belle blamed the Indians' front office for the team's failure to go back to the World Series in '96.

    "If you look at our '95 team and you look at the Braves, I thought basically we should have kept the same team," Belle said. "Why tamper with it if it's not broken? They let (Paul) Sorrento go. Then they let Kenny Hill go, and after that they trade Wayne Kirby, Carlos (Baerga), Eddie Murray and the list goes on."


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    That, and they wouldn't pay him in 97.

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    If there’s one guy that embodies intelligent and rational decision making, its Albert Belle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanyates View Post
    Belle was never traded.
    Whatever. I meant they didn’t keep him and had a longer post about how they traded away a bunch of other players but didn’t post it.

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    I want no part of Anthopoulos.

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