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    57 believe the government owns all land and all people

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    I sympathize with the Hammonds. To a point.

    On the other hand, I hear a lot of talk about inner city people that they should move if the situations prove difficult. Or if someone lives in a bad neighborhood they should simply move.
    Well the same applies to the Hammonds and the Bundys. Or me for that matter. If the situation is bad either change it peacefully or find another line of work.
    Or to your way of thinking does that only apply to people of color ?


    The Bundy Family symbolize everything that is wrong with Right Wing anti-government movement.
    Just like armed black groups of the early 70's symbolized everything that was wrong with the Black Pride movement
    Or the Weathermen symbolized everything wrong with the anit war movement of the same period
    ......

    But for Chists Sake, the building is a Bird Sanctuary Welcome center in the middle of nowhere that was closed for the holidays. C'mon man
    Even you have to admit that is kinda lame
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    It's beyond lame. "Look at us! We own guns!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    It's beyond lame. "Look at us! We own guns!"
    Have any of the laws, or rules, or practices, or anything else really, that Clive's boy and his friends are pissed off about, changed since Obama became president? I am not up on what all this is about so they may really have a point (or may not) I'm really just asking for some facts here. After we establish a baseline of some actual truths I may (or may not) comment more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    Have any of the laws, or rules, or practices, or anything else really, that Clive's boy and his friends are pissed off about, changed since Obama became president? I am not up on what all this is about so they may really have a point (or may not) I'm really just asking for some facts here. After we establish a baseline of some actual truths I may (or may not) comment more.
    I honestly don't know. There's been an on-going war in the West between ranchers and environmental types over the past 100 years and this is an outgrowth of that. I suppose that any time the BLM changes its mind on a land-use issue, it becomes, by extension to these folks, a direct order from the President (in this case Obama). The other side reacts as goofily, just not with a display of firearms.

    I'm commenting more about the parading around with guns more than anything else. It just seems stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I honestly don't know. There's been an on-going war in the West between ranchers and environmental types over the past 100 years and this is an outgrowth of that. I suppose that any time the BLM changes its mind on a land-use issue, it becomes, by extension to these folks, a direct order from the President (in this case Obama). The other side reacts as goofily, just not with a display of firearms.

    I'm commenting more about the parading around with guns more than anything else. It just seems stupid.
    THe issue to me is the gov't is going after their land because they want the oil/natural resources and aren't properly compensating the farmers. It's basically the gov't saying we want that land because we can make a **** ton of money on it so we are going to just take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    THe issue to me is the gov't is going after their land because they want the oil/natural resources and aren't properly compensating the farmers. It's basically the gov't saying we want that land because we can make a **** ton of money on it so we are going to just take it.
    As I understand it, it is land the ranchers are leasing and the BLM is terminating the leases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    As I understand it, it is land the ranchers are leasing and the BLM is terminating the leases.
    http://www.infowars.com/hammonds-tar...al-their-land/

    Also, many of the leases were forced onto these ranchers so they could continue to farm.

    And an even worse look for the government is allowing a judge to return those two guys to jail for an additional 5 years.

    And while, I don't agree with the "armed takeover," just a note that these buildings were vacant and no property or persons have been injured.
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    liberals storm government buildings in protest all the time and have to be escorted out. Funny we didn't hear the same grump from 57 during the Wisconsin union protests. Code Pink is constantly doing stupid crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    liberals storm government buildings in protest all the time and have to be escorted out. Funny we didn't hear the same grump from 57 during the Wisconsin union protests. Code Pink is constantly doing stupid crap.
    armed ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    As I understand it, it is land the ranchers are leasing and the BLM is terminating the leases.
    Here is a longer version:

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...y-persecution/
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    http://www.infowars.com/hammonds-tar...al-their-land/

    Also, many of the leases were forced onto these ranchers so they could continue to farm.

    And an even worse look for the government is allowing a judge to return those two guys to jail for an additional 5 years.

    And while, I don't agree with the "armed takeover," just a note that these buildings were vacant and no property or persons have been injured.
    Or burned or looted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    armed ?
    There have been shootings at occupy wall street events. So yeah at least some of them were armed. This protest will likely wind up being less deadly than the occupy wall st protest. And less poopy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    ...And less poopy.
    You say that like it's a good thing.

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    Definitely a fraught issue. National Forest management is weird, because it's not pure (or mostly pure) nature-conservation (like National Parks or Monuments), but instead a domain of highly-regulated resource-extraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    There have been shootings at occupy wall street events. So yeah at least some of them were armed. This protest will likely wind up being less deadly than the occupy wall st protest. And less poopy.
    Don't forget the Ferguson or Baltimore "protests"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    What makes this terrorism? And when is something like this OK? For example, was the revolution OK or was it domestic terrorism?

    Not picking a fight - genuinely asking where we draw the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    What makes this terrorism? And when is something like this OK? For example, was the revolution OK or was it domestic terrorism?

    Not picking a fight - genuinely asking where we draw the line
    The revolution was terrorism for sure.

    And the fact that the nearby town isn't having school because they're scared of these people clearly makes them terrorists. They've got people in a watch tower, they've got people standing guard. If they had a tie to ISIS people would be ****ting themselves.
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