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    I'd have taken Lewis over Anderson and still feel that way. I also feel that way about Corey Ray, who is 20 on this list. I'd rather have Groome and Rutherford, too. Still frustrating for me to look back at last year's draft, even if I think Anderson is a decent prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    I'd have taken Lewis over Anderson and still feel that way. I also feel that way about Corey Ray, who is 20 on this list. I'd rather have Groome and Rutherford, too. Still frustrating for me to look back at last year's draft, even if I think Anderson is a decent prospect.
    These rankings are almost entirely still based on pre-draft opinions, though. Groome and Rutherford were ranked high as draft prospects, so it makes sense they would still be ranked high as prospects. It will be more interesting to see where all these guys are in a year.

    Also, an interesting thing to consider is that Rutherford is exactly a full year older than Anderson. Anderson is 6 months younger than Pint and about 4 months younger than Groome. I think we intentionally went after the younger talent that we liked.

    Ray is one of the more intriguing rankings on the list. He was considered maybe the 4th or 5th best talent in the draft by the time draft day came around by just about everyone, yet he's the highest ranked draftee on this list. And that's after an underwhelming performance in his first taste of pro ball, though they were aggressive in terms of where they placed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Funny thing about everyone being so down on Anderson. He's been ranked higher on EVERY list than Fried, and Fried's been one of the most impressive Pitchers in camp this spring.
    Both are 55 FV prospects in Longenhagen's eyes. IMO Fried has the higher ceiling and better stuff but being 23 and the injury history bring his status down.

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    Think of it this way: If we don't draft Anderson we probably don't get Muller and Wentz. Those three guys are kind of a package deal because of the $'s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherders View Post
    Think of it this way: If we don't draft Anderson we probably don't get Muller and Wentz. Those three guys are kind of a package deal because of the $'s.
    That's not actually the reality though. Lewis signed for less than Anderson, IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I promise you it's OK to admit the FO may have made a mistake.

    Would you honestly not trade anderson for Lewis right now?
    I was one of the most pro-Lewis guys around, but no way I would trade Anderson for Lewis right now.

    Before the knee injury? Absolutely.

    Once Lewis plays for a month and proves he is healthy again? Definitely.

    While he is still injured and hasn't taken a single competitive rep? No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That's not actually the reality though. Lewis signed for less than Anderson, IIRC
    We don't live in a world where Lewis was drafted 3rd so you don't know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That's not actually the reality though. Lewis signed for less than Anderson, IIRC
    That likely has something to do with where Lewis was picked as well..... I have no idea what Lewis would have needed had he been picked #3, I'm almost positive it wouldn't have been for the full slot, but would he have taken as little as Anderson did at #3? I have no idea. Maybe we can only get one of Wentz or Muller if we had picked Lewis .... and maybe that still would have been the right way to go. Lewis/Wentz/slot college arm or Anderson/Wentz/Muller? Just throwing hypotheticals out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Depends on the mix of players. I prefer contact low walk players but if you have a team littered with those players it makes sense to have a Matt Kemp type.
    Sure. But the reason players like Chris Carter are very cheap is that they just aren't very good even with the 30+ homers. He's a 1 WAR player due to ****ty defense and a high K%. Does that remind you of anyone?

    So yeah if you want to fill an OF spot with a high power 1 WAR player then so be it. That's not going to cost you much. Just as filling a rotation spot with a 1 WAR player wouldn't cost you much either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Sure. But the reason players like Chris Carter are very cheap is that they just aren't very good even with the 30+ homers. He's a 1 WAR player due to ****ty defense and a high K%. Does that remind you of anyone?

    So yeah if you want to fill an OF spot with a high power 1 WAR player then so be it. That's not going to cost you much. Just as filling a rotation spot with a 1 WAR player wouldn't cost you much either.
    It cost the Braves $23M to fill the rotation with Dickey and Colon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It cost the Braves $23M to fill the rotation with Dickey and Colon...
    Yeah and they are projected to combine for close to 4 WAR between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Yeah and they are projected to combine for close to 4 WAR between them.
    A lot of risk associated with those projections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    A lot of risk associated with those projections
    There is risk with any kind of projection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    A lot of risk associated with those projections
    less than most, honestly. Projections are worst for prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventura's Stolen Bases View Post
    less than most, honestly. Projections are worst for prospects.
    I'm guessing the range of outcomes gets pretty wide for over 40 pitchers...extra wide in the case of Colon

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Funny thing about everyone being so down on Anderson. He's been ranked higher on EVERY list than Fried, and Fried's been one of the most impressive Pitchers in camp this spring.

    Also FWIW, there were 7 players 18 years old or younger ranked ahead of him on this list, and one of them was Maitan. Perspective, please.

    Just sayin'.
    Not that I'm down on Anderson, but Fried's being held back because of his injury history. If he stays healthy and sustains the stuff he's shown since the end of last season (70ish fastball and curve), he'll leapfrog Anderson no matter how well Anderson pitches this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawwr View Post
    Not that I'm down on Anderson, but Fried's being held back because of his injury history. If he stays healthy and sustains the stuff he's shown since the end of last season (70ish fastball and curve), he'll leapfrog Anderson no matter how well Anderson pitches this year.
    Loganhagen essentially said as much in his Braves writeup earlier. If he has a healthy year and does what he did at the end of 2016 then imo he's going to be a high end FV 55 player around the 30-40 range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'm guessing the range of outcomes gets pretty wide for over 40 pitchers...extra wide in the case of Colon
    Good point

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