This makes me wonder if Anderson’s spin rate is a real concern since the Braves have the data and I’d have figured he along with Pache and Waters would be the 3 untouchable unless we were getting a legit game changing player in return.Originally Posted by CJ9
If they trade Anderson with his track record and youth for anything less then a controllable Ace or impact bat that would speak volumes about what they think of him and the data.
That’s true, but there is no sign that they’re interested in moving him for a smaller piece.
I think they're more "listening" than listening. If they get offered a franchise changing offer, they might deal him. But they really have no incentive to move him otherwise. Especially not within the division.
I feel like an Anderson package might be big enough here. He’s no Stroman, but no slouch.
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IMO, Houston or LAD are the most likely landing spots, if they do indeed trade him this summer. We match up well also, but not quite as good as those 2 teams, unless they are in love with Riley and we're willing to move (I am).
Last edited by Carp; 07-25-2019 at 10:03 AM.
Agreed. Selling high on Riley to a team dreaming on him as a young masher may be the best long term value he can provide the Braves.
Something like Thor for Riley and Wright/Anderson could be a serious impact addition...assuming the Braves staff can do a better job keeping Thor on the field than the Mets awful staff did.
We have to move Wright this offseason imo if we don’t intend to keep him in the rotation. Him and Riley could headline a package for Thor and I’d be fine with it.
Wheeler is supposed to pitch tomorrow. If he shows he's healthy I'd make a run at him.
Like others have said. If it’s not a true impact addition I’d rather hold steady in the rotation.
Make that move, then sign Rendon in the offseason. Boom.
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I have no desire to overpay for a number 2 starter. There are several 2s out there with ace price tags that we need to steer clear of.
That being said, I think there's something to be said for a depth addition. Wheeler has the stuff to go on a dominant run or over power a lineup in the playoffs. A guy like Minor could steady the rotation, take innings off the young arms, and be a weapon out of the pen if necessary.
I think there are ways to improve the rotation without an ace but I definitely wouldn't give up anything really valuable for those options.
I like Wheeler and think he could help a lot down the stretch and the playoffs I’m just afraid the Mets are gonna have a high price tag. Especially to us.
According to Rosenthal: Mets are exploring an extension for Wheeler and trading Thor
Get off my lawn!
That's strange to me
I don’t get it but if that’s the case go get Thor now if it can be doe without trading Waters or Pache... although I’d probably be willing to trade Waters for someone like Thor
That stinks of the Mets trying to drum up the price on Wheeler. He's a rental who will almost certainly test the FA waters this offseason. He's also coming off a recent injury. The Mets have very little leverage and so are probably getting extremely low offers at this point. They want the idea that they could keep Wheeler floated out there as a viable alternative to try to get people to up their offers.
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Jenski: Hi Craig, what is the min/max return a Tigers fan could expect in a Matt Boyd deal? Does he even get traded?
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Craig Edwards: I don’t think he gets dealt. There are enough concerns that he probably won’t get the return the Tigers want. I think two top-100ish guys with none in the top-30 or so plus some lottery tickets is a reasonable return right now, which is why they probably hold onto him.
That's a package of Anderson/Wright plus another 50, plus another couple fill ins for Boyd. It's hard to imagine the Tigers holding out for more while being non-contenders, but that seems like exactly what they are going to do.
The Tigers holding onto Boyd while losing a bunch of games because they have an unreasonable ask is why they are going to fail in a rebuild. They already wasted Fulmer's value, and they are likely to do the same with Boyd's. All around terrible FO.
Sounding like the Mets are shopping Thor.
I would make an aggressive offer. Any two of Anderson, Fried, Wright, Riley, Wilson, Muller.
I would NOT include Pache and Waters in any deal.
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ryan: you mentioned what type of return you think the Reds could fetch from the Athletics for Puig, but what do you think a realistic return from the Indians would be?
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Craig Edwards: Probably one of their 45s.
That's like Wentz for Puig to fill in LF. Puig would be a good get for a package similar to what it costs for an elite BP arm rental...2-3 40s maybe a 45 as the centerpiece, preferably using quantity over quality.
Ideal scenario is they value Riley as a future Peter Alonso, and the Braves get Thor for something like Riley plus a non Wright/Anderson arm.
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