You know Comey wasnt involved because they didnt give everyone blanked immunity without requiring information that leads to a criminal prosecution.
You know Comey wasnt involved because they didnt give everyone blanked immunity without requiring information that leads to a criminal prosecution.
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It’s over."
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Considering trump owns the tower if any connection's were tapped then his claim easy right. Therefore, if Comey was aware of this then he lied.
Please show where trump said a specific line was tapped. So instead of being emotional like mostly all hysterical libs are now try to see the corruption that was the Obama administration.
I'd like to see a quote that said "I have no knowledge of wiretapping."
The quote that I have some recollection of his making was to the effect, "There is no evidence that I know of that supports the view that Trump was wiretapped."
Please correct me if you have more information.
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"I am your retribution."
1. All I've done, repeatedly, is state that the bar for a FISA warrant is incredibly high. You still seem to think that the warrant was based on "contacts with foreign intelligence assets". Stating that a FISA warrant requires more direct evidence is not painting a worst case scenario. Attempting to extract clarity about the warrant from one of the few areas of the secret court that we actually know anything about is not speculating.
2. You think there is oversight AFTER the warrant is issued? Lol. Look at you all trusting the NSA.
3. I've never said that we shouldn't be suspicious of Manafort. You see the circumstances as as indemnifying. I see them as potentially extenuating.
To my mind there is a difference between Trump and Trump Tower. Trump Tower is yuge, more like a small village. I believe that when a wiretap permit is given for someone like Manafort, it would apply to his apartment and that communications emanating from nearby aparments would not be covered by such a permit. Perhaps I am mistaken in this.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
But hi claim is that the Trump tower wires were tapped. 'His' wires. I don't see how it's a stretch to say that manafort wires at trump are also trumps.
Therefore, Comey either don't know this operation was taking place or willfully lied to congress. Neither is good and each have a large damaging back story that the American people deserve to know.
To make an adjudication as to whether he was right or not one would have to venture into his mind to know what he was talking about. I am not inclined to undertake such a journey. But from my vantage point there is a distinction between Trump and Trump Tower. From my vantage point again, it appears to me that Trump understands that there is such a distinction and that when he was referring to "my wires" he was talking about a wiretap on his communications not those of a tenant in his building.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Yep. But he is also a master at including enough truth to not be a full on liar. I expect that he caught wind of this and knew precisely what was going on, and that saying "Trump Tower was tapped" had enough truth that he could spring a trap on Comey/Clapper/Lynch etc when they inevitably denied it. I think he was correct. Look at this summary of Clapper's interview with Chuck Todd:
Former DNI James Clapper: ‘I Can Deny’ Wiretap of Trump Tower
by KAILANI KOENIG
WASHINGTON — Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Sunday denied any suggestion that Trump Tower communications were wiretapped before the election.
For the part of the national security apparatus that he oversaw, "there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign," Clapper told Chuck Todd in an exclusive interview on Sunday’s “Meet The Press.”When Todd asked him whether he could confirm or deny if a FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Act) order for this existed, Clapper declared, "I can deny it."
Asked again whether there was a FISA Court order to monitor Trump Tower, Clapper said, "Not to my knowledge."
Clapper said that if any wiretap like that occurred, he would “certainly hope” that he would be aware of it.
Farther on in the article, it gets even worse:
Clapper was also asked on "Meet the Press" if he had any evidence that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russian government while the Kremlin was working to influence the election.
"Not to my knowledge," Clapper said, based on the information he had before his time in the position ended.
“We did not include anything in our report … that had any reflect of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report," he said. “We had no evidence of such collusion.”
Again, it's a kernel of truth in Trump's claim. But then the DNI says he isn't aware of the Tower being tapped, of a FISA order to tap the Tower, or of any collusion between members of the campaign and the Russians. The optics on that are really, really bad.
forgot the link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...-claim-n729196
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The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Clapper put himself in a tough spot when he answered the first question (about Trump and the Trump campaign). For him to answer the second question (about Trump Tower) I think would have run afoul of laws about disclosing confidential information. And declining to answer that question would have raised a lot of eyebrows. Tough situation. I can't say he handled it the best way. But it was a tough spot to be in.
It could also be that Clapper's answers are accurate. What we know from the CNN story is that Manafort's communications were being monitored. I don't believe any information has come out that he was living at his apartment in Trump Tower and that his communications from that location were being monitored.
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"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."