Megathread: Braves lose Maitan, Bae and 10+ plus International Sanctions.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Coppy resigned exactly 3 hours ago. There is already an article up naming the Top 5 replacement options.

Yeah, nothing shady going on here haha.

What are you talking about? This is a speculation article. This is not much different than anyone else on this board discussing who the next GM is.

[CrimsonCowboy]

[Bluedevilruss]

Everyone's doing backhanded under the table stuff in Latin America.

[Preacher]

Everyone's doing backhanded under the table stuff in Latin America.

This. But sometimes you gotta punish someone.

Maybe Coppy went above and beyond the usual stuff and MLB decided 'enough is enough'.

Who knows at this point??

[CrimsonCowboy]

Everyone's doing backhanded under the table stuff in Latin America.

Oh, I don't doubt that for a moment. What will MLB do to enforce their rules?

[smootness]

From MLBTR:

"While it’s not yet clear what transgressions the Braves have committed, the resignation of a general manager — be it forced or voluntary — would represent the most extreme outcome for any scrutiny under which GMs have come in recent years. Padres general manager A.J. Preller was suspended for one month after his team’s medical disclosure practices were revealed to be substandard, and the Red Sox were forced to tear up some agreements with international prospects they’d signed in package deals as a means of circumventing international bonus restrictions. Neither of those incidents, however, resulted in the resignation or firing of a high-ranking official."

So why did Coppy need to go? Why didn't the Braves rally around him?

Who is still so blinded by ignorance that they can't see this was due to the rift in the FO between the statheads and scoutheads, with the scoutheads winning?

Coppy took the fall for the Braves not meeting revenue goals in 2017. It is the last card upper management has to play before they are fired themselves. Simple as that.

Chill, man. We will find this out in time. There's a chance you're right, and there's a chance you're wrong. Why you insist on coming on as strong as you possibly can on assumptions and calling everyone else a moron, I will never understand.

[Enscheff]

Give me Jason McLeod from the Cubs as a package deal with Dave Martinez to manage.

[Bluedevilruss]

I take it back. I sound like a UNC fan going with the "everybody does it" defense for decades of fake classes.

[Enscheff]

Oh, I don't doubt that for a moment. What will MLB do to enforce their rules?

The Padres had their GM suspended for a month over withholding medical issues. The Redo Sox lost their international prospects over rules violations. Neither team fired an executive.

The Braves are supposedly not going to lose a prospect, meaning the punishment will be less than the Red Sox suffered, yet Coppy was ousted anyways.

Wake up and smell the "old school" LOL.

[striker42]

The Padres had their GM suspended for a month over withholding medical issues. The Redo Sox lost their international prospects over rules violations. Neither team fired an executive.

The Braves are supposedly not going to lose a prospect, meaning the punishment will be less than the Red Sox suffered, yet Coppy was ousted anyways.

Wake up and smell the "old school" LOL.

Those two might be related. It's possibly Coppy being shown the door prevents tougher penalties. A GM losing his job over this sends a strong message to the other 29.

[smootness]

The Padres had their GM suspended for a month over withholding medical issues. The Redo Sox lost their international prospects over rules violations. Neither team fired an executive.

The Braves are supposedly not going to lose a prospect, meaning the punishment will be less than the Red Sox suffered, yet Coppy was ousted anyways.

Wake up and smell the "old school" LOL.

If we face very minimal penalties, then I agree that it looks bad for Braves management.

[Enscheff]

Those two might be related. It's possibly Coppy being shown the door prevents tougher penalties. A GM losing his job over this sends a strong message to the other 29.

Then you are implying there was a negotiation of some sort between the Braves and MLB. The Braves agreed with ousting Coppy rather than rallying behind him and accepting the consequences as a franchise.

There is no way to spin this other than the Braves throwing Coppy under the bus.

[Enscheff]

If we face very minimal penalties, then I agree that it looks bad for Braves management.

I fully expect pozzies to argue over the semantics of "minimal penalties" in an effort to support the FO.

Fact of the matter is the Padres and Red Sox didn't fire an executive when the team broke rules and was punished. The Braves threw Coppy under the bus before the investigation even concluded.

Nothing else needs to be said.

[CrimsonCowboy]

If Coppy broke the rules, then he needed to go

[Enscheff]

If Coppy disagreed with "old school" thinking, then he needed to go

FIFY

[The Chosen One]

If Coppy broke the rules, then he needed to go

And if Hart and JS knew they should go too.

I wouldnt bet on JS being as tied to it as Hart. Hart definitely needs to go. Coppy answers to both but directly to Hart.

[striker42]

Then you are implying there was a negotiation of some sort between the Braves and MLB. The Braves agreed with ousting Coppy rather than rallying behind him and accepting the consequences as a franchise.

There is no way to spin this other than the Braves throwing Coppy under the bus.

If the initial reports about the severity of the rule breaking are correct, it's not really throwing Coppy under the bus. The better analogy is that Coppy has thrown himself into the road in front of the bus and we're not going to have the organization push him out of the way and take the hit instead.

There's a difference between throwing someone under the bus and letting someone take the consequences of their action.

[GeorgiaGirl]

It sounds like according to the other board with a source that might be good, the 90s brain trust might also get forced out with this investigation. They might not have a choice as they might get booted from the Braves organization.

[CrimsonCowboy]

FIFY

What is the thought process with you here? Why are you so much in a conspiracy theory here? Do you not think Coppy broke the rules? Do you not think he should face punishment? What's your deal?

[The Chosen One]

It sounds like according to the other board with a source that might be good, the 90s brain trust might also get forced out with this investigation. They might not have a choice as they might get booted from the Braves organization.

McGuirk ain’t going anywhere. He’s the corporate watchdog on behalf of Liberty.

I dont see Bobby going anywhere. It has to be JS or JH or hopefully both. I honestly wouldn’t mind it if Cox was interim GM. Cox helped build our farm before JS came and got all the credit.