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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    not only did he lose the poplar vote in general election

    he didn't win a majority of the vote in the GOP primary either

    so, it's silly to act like his platform is widely wanted on immigration or anything else
    But he won.

    Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Right, so the relevant question in the poll is about priority. Right now the allocation system is biased towards families. According to this poll, a sizeable majority favors prioritizing skills and education. That's not the same thing as a zero-sum "do you support ending family-based migration." And it's worth noting that even that number is quite fluid depending on how the question is asked.
    But this still rejects your notion that people want chain migration because chain migration is within the legal migration codification.

    Immigration is going to change. Its changing around the world. This is not an isolated 'racist american right wing' movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    And Americans haven't even benefited from the amended witholding tables yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    But he won.

    Deal with it.


    that's what i am doing with donations to organizations that directly combat against him

    but thanks for your wisdom on that AA. i have been dealing with it since day 1
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    it's called family reunification.

    there is no such term of chain migration in the immigration code
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    Off-limit characterizations in the immigration debate:

    - Chain Migration
    - Amnesty
    - Nativist

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    Interesting thought:


    Brian Schatz
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    If it weren’t for the Hastert Rule we would have a bipartisan budget agreement,

    disaster relief, and Dream. If it weren’t for the Hastert Rule our legislative branch could function.

    Also, I don’t know why they haven’t renamed it but it’s probs too late.


    why hasn't it been renamed.

    Just think the means by which (R) handles legislation is named after a man released from prison this past July for molesting boys.
    I would rethink my party affiliation over that, but hey,Roy Moore -Donald Trump . Sleep with dogs you get fleas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Off-limit characterizations in the immigration debate:

    - Chain Migration
    - Amnesty
    - Nativist
    Don't forget Criminal....even for those who broke federal law to come here.
    Go get him!

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    http://theweek.com/articles/752138/w...sonate-voters?

    Most State of the Union speeches come and go. Very little gets remembered for long, as other priorities overtake the White House and Congress. The visuals in Trump's speech, however, may be more enduring, especially when it comes to immigration. Democrats may want to think about taking a significant concession on the path to citizenship for DACA recipients and getting that issue off the table as soon as possible.

    To some extent, at significant events like this, Trump succeeds by not failing. His well-earned reputation as a rhetorical loose cannon sets expectations lower than usual, but that belies his preparation for major traditional speeches. It happened in Davos last week and again last night. Congress may not want to admit it, but Trump outplayed them, just as he managed to do with the shutdown a little over a week earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Interesting thought:


    Brian Schatz
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    Jan 30

    If it weren’t for the Hastert Rule we would have a bipartisan budget agreement,

    disaster relief, and Dream. If it weren’t for the Hastert Rule our legislative branch could function.

    Also, I don’t know why they haven’t renamed it but it’s probs too late.


    why hasn't it been renamed.

    Just think the means by which (R) handles legislation is named after a man released from prison this past July for molesting boys.
    I would rethink my party affiliation over that, but hey,Roy Moore -Donald Trump . Sleep with dogs you get fleas
    Go get him!

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    hey Jaw the party of Denny Hastert -- you seem to be ok with that bit of baggage --- as long as you get your thousand dollars.
    Is that right ?

    What about you Hawk --- why haven't y'all changed that ?
    Or is it you just don't care ?

    y'all a piece a work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post

    Chris Murphy
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    Congress voted 517-5 to impose sanctions on Russia.

    Yesterday, President Trump decided he wasn't going to implement them.

    Why is the President serving the interests of Vladimir Putin instead of the American people?
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    57, research is your friend. Employ it.

    Good grief.

    Your counter-punch today has been remarkably inane.

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    Changing the nickname of something.

    Lord almighty.

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    who's counter punching ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    57, do you believe it would be accurate for someone to claim that you approve of sexual misconduct in the workplace because you are "the party" of Bill Clinton? Or that you support leaving a girl you are having an affair with to drown in a car because you are "the party" of Ted Kennedy? Or that you approve of stealing from charities to fund a shopping spree because you are "the party" of Corinne Brown?

    If not, do you think you could leave the elementary school level of associative insults out of the conversation?
    Go get him!

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    57's contribution today is that Republicans are morally bankrupt because they won't change the name of an informal rule.

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    Oh, yeah, and Roy Moore.

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