Swanson getting the call...

[VirginiaBrave]

If he develops as we hope, Swanson will draw comparisons to Yount and Ripken on the high end or Barry Larkin on the low end. Either is acceptable to me.

[Carp]

Swanson's not ready, I don't care how he performs for the rest of the year. For all I care he could hit .500 with a 1.000 OPS over the next month and a half and it doesn't mean anything. He's not ready and he shouldn't be on the big leaguer roster. We are setting ourselves back 20 years by making this move just like we did rushing Andruw and Heyward to the bigs.

We messed it up with Andruw. He should have stayed another year in the minors and learned how to lay off of outside breaking pitches and go the other way.

We messed it up with Frenchy. He should have been held in the minors for another 3 years to learn and pickup plate discipline.

We messed it up with Heyward. He should be the 3rd best overall player in the game behind Trout and Harper and instead he's basically a fourth outfielder, Al Martin redux.

All 3 great talents that never realized their potential cause they were rushed and never learned to play the game the right way.

Lol, so their "failures" are all to blame on the FO, not the players themselves...

[clvclv]

Lol, so their "failures" are all to blame on the FO, not the players themselves...

Actually it's all Fredi's fault.

[Chico]

Saw the clip of Coppy on MLB Network. When asked about the chances that Albies comes up in September, he left it pretty open-ended but noted that they don't feel that Albies is currently as advanced as Swanson. I'm hoping that means what I think it means . . . June 2017.

That could be a decision made in spring training after we know the new CBA guidelines that come out in Januray and if we think Jace can handle 2B well for a couple of months.

[Julio3000]

If he develops as we hope, Swanson will draw comparisons to Yount and Ripken on the high end or Barry Larkin on the low end. Either is acceptable to me.

I think Barry was better than either of those guys.

[gilesfan]

Some of y'all ain't never never admit Heyward is what he is which is a dud.

Im confused on your grammar, but Heyward is far from a dud.

[Chico]

If he develops as we hope, Swanson will draw comparisons to Yount and Ripken on the high end or Barry Larkin on the low end. Either is acceptable to me.

Barry Larkin is a good comp outside of those random power years

[mossy]

Im confused on your grammar, but Heyward is far from a dud.

If Frenchy has better avg, HR's, and RBI's....you might be a dud. The Braves dodged a huge bullet on this guy.

[thewupk]

If Frenchy has better avg, HR's, and RBI's....you might be a dud. The Braves dodged a huge bullet on this guy.

What bullet is that? Unless you expect Heyward to be this bad of a hitter for the rest of his career. Personally I still expect his 2015 season going forward. If he hits this poorly next season I might change my mind.

[dak]

big league

Even though the transcripts apparently say "big league", to me it will always be "bigly". I was shocked to see that this was actually in the dictionary.

[gilesfan]

If Frenchy has better avg, HR's, and RBI's....you might be a dud. The Braves dodged a huge bullet on this guy.

Heywards offensive numbers dwarf Frenchies.

[clvclv]

Im confused on your grammar, but Heyward is far from a dud.

Agreed.

He's also far from a $184 million player as well.

[thewupk]

Agreed.

He's also far from a $184 million player as well.

Not enough information. Because a 184 million player could be 9 years and 20 million or 6 years and 30 million.

[chop2chip]

I know the Cubs wouldn't make the trade and the Braves wouldn't be the team to make the trade, but Heyward would be an awesome buy low move.

[clvclv]

Not enough information. Because a 184 million player could be 9 years and 20 million or 6 years and 30 million.

Semantics.

I'm just glad the Braves aren't paying it.

[thewupk]

Semantics.

I'm just glad the Braves aren't paying it.

Not really. It actually matters a lot. I do feel OF is the one area though where the Braves will overpay at, in $$$, when it comes for the time to go for it.

[clvclv]

Not really. It actually matters a lot. I do feel OF is the one area though where the Braves will overpay at, in $$$, when it comes for the time to go for it.

Quite possibly (or even likely). They'll be overpaying for someone that can hit though, and Jason certainly doesn't look like he'll ever be that guy.

[Enscheff]

If he develops as we hope, Swanson will draw comparisons to Yount and Ripken on the high end or Barry Larkin on the low end. Either is acceptable to me.

I think Swanson is most likely to be the next Alan Trammell (career slash of .285/.352/.415, 185 career HRs).

Larkin and Jeter are actually decent comps too, but that is probably his ceiling offensively (~.815 OPS for both). Trammell had a bit more defense than Larkin and Jeter, and a little less offense, but all 3 ultimately ended up with a very similar career WAR in the low 70s.

He will never have anywhere close to the power of Ripken (431 HRs), and should be a better defender at SS than Larkin, Jeter and Yount (who played half his career in CF).

[thewupk]

Quite possibly (or even likely). They'll be overpaying for someone that can hit though, and Jason certainly doesn't look like he'll ever be that guy.

I don't understand because 2012-2015 did happen. Where he put up a 273/348/433 - 118 WRC+ in 2350 PA's. Is that not being able to hit?

You have the 'hitting first' OF in Justin Upton who hit 266/346/460 - 123 WRC+ in that same time frame.

Both of those were paid 20+ million a year for those numbers. Heyward got paid a little more and a little longer for obvious reasons. But the truth is that an OF in the 120 WRC+ range is going to be getting 20+ per year and that number will go up as times goes on.

[Preacher]

I think Swanson is most likely to be the next Alan Trammell (career slash of .285/.352/.415, 185 career HRs).

Larkin and Jeter are actually decent comps too, but that is probably his ceiling offensively (~.815 OPS for both). Trammell had a bit more defense than Larkin and Jeter, and a little less offense, but all 3 ultimately ended up with a very similar career WAR in the low 70s.

He will never have anywhere close to the power of Ripken (431 HRs), and should be a better defender at SS than Larkin, Jeter and Yount (who played half his career in CF).

I'll be just fine with Swanson becoming Trammell, that's a really good player right there, he had 400+ doubles and also stole 200+ bases.