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    Show them respect.
    That is all they ever wanted.

    Going back to before WWI
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Show them respect.
    That is all they ever wanted.

    Going back to before WWI

    Ha ha ha

    You mean lay down to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Show them respect.
    That is all they ever wanted.

    Going back to before WWI
    The ignorance of the west on this issue is scary.

    Aside from the whole world living under sharia law that is all they have wanted right? Just that small piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post

    You mean lay down to them
    saw a young man in public yesterday wearing a TShirt declaring These Colors Don't Run
    over a Confederate flag.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The ignorance of the west on this issue is scary.

    Aside from the whole world living under sharia law that is all they have wanted right? Just that small piece.
    If your world consists of only Jets and Sharks
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    If your world consists of only Jets and Sharks
    Indcredibly naive. The radicals are not going anywhere anytime soon and there are many more than you want to admit.. We have to deal with this issue immediatley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Indcredibly naive. The radicals are not going anywhere anytime soon and there are many more than you want to admit.. We have to deal with this issue immediatley.
    I would say our current policy of bombing them into oblivion isn't working very well

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    It strikes me odd that there was a shooting by a Latino and thethe and Sturg turn it to talk about the "Islamic Problem "

    Kinda text book definition of Bigoted Hysteria

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I would say our current policy of bombing them into oblivion isn't working very well
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    It strikes me odd that there was a shooting by a Latino and thethe and Sturg turn it to talk about the "Islamic Problem "

    Kinda text book definition of Bigoted Hysteria
    Do some research on the shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The ignorance of the west on this issue is scary.

    Aside from the whole world living under sharia law that is all they have wanted right? Just that small piece.
    Funny that there was very little, if any, talk of sharia law before WWI when the varied populations of the Mideast seemed to live in much greater harmony. It wasn't perfect, but to pretend that Western imperialism hasn't contributed to the current environment in that part of the world is what is frightfully naive.

    Who is responsible for screening checked luggage? Airline or TSA? My guess is there will be some debate as to whether or not guns can even be carried in checked luggage after this event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Do some research on the shooting.
    I'll get back to your point in a second, but

    a shooting
    there was a gun involved, correct ?
    Who sold the gun?
    What manufacturer profited from the ammunition ?

    Suppose we take the weapon out of the equation
    just sayin'



    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ooting-suspect
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    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Funny that there was very little, if any, talk of sharia law before WWI when the varied populations of the Mideast seemed to live in much greater harmony. It wasn't perfect, but to pretend that Western imperialism hasn't contributed to the current environment in that part of the world is what is frightfully naive.

    Who is responsible for screening checked luggage? Airline or TSA? My guess is there will be some debate as to whether or not guns can even be carried in checked luggage after this event.
    I personally have never said that the west is innocent. I do believe this was coming irregardless of our actions but we have fanned the flames.

    Either way....we are where we are and there is no going back. This problem is multiplying before our eyes and if we don't get a handle on it our future generations are going to have an impossible task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I'll get back to your point in a second, but

    a shooting
    there was a gun involved, correct ?
    Who sold the gun?
    What manufacturer profited from the ammunition ?

    Suppose we take the weapon out of the equation
    just sayin'



    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ooting-suspect
    This guy would have then rented a truck and killed as many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrShwag View Post
    Ah the Euro apporach.. Let them have their way. Don't upset them. Give them their own cities. I think you can guess the side I'm on. Ban'em.
    The "Euro approach" has been to isolate their immigrant populations and deny them rights, or basically exactly what thethe is proposing. Bet you France wishes they would have worked a bit harder to integrate those populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Please. Offer a better solution.
    Investigate actual criminals. Leave people who do nothing wrong alone. Tackle the issues that radicalize people to begin with, rather than trying to chop off each head of the hydra as it pops out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Investigate actual criminals. Leave people who do nothing wrong alone. Tackle the issues that radicalize people to begin with, rather than trying to chop off each head of the hydra as it pops out.
    How do you identify criminals?

    What are the issues that radicalized people?

    How do we get in front of the issue without agressive forms of gathering intelligence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Investigate actual criminals. Leave people who do nothing wrong alone. Tackle the issues that radicalize people to begin with, rather than trying to chop off each head of the hydra as it pops out.
    I agree. The problem across the spectrum is that we spend too much time suspecting the innocent and not enough energy punishing the guilty. The way we solve this problem is with positive interaction and not with idle threats and branding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I agree. The problem across the spectrum is that we spend too much time suspecting the innocent and not enough energy punishing the guilty. The way we solve this problem is with positive interaction and not with idle threats and branding.
    Now how many Americans do you know who are capable of these sorts of very necessary things without race, gender, politics, religion, favorite sports team, or other "dumbing down" factors getting in the way? ;)

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    i literally am way more scared of an american killing me random with a gun or slipping in the shower than being killed by an islamic terrorist attack in this country


    but the latter is the one that "We have to deal with this issue immediatley."
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