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    the article does discuss the data used and possible issues:

    Let’s pause a minute to talk about where exactly this data comes from. Ideally you would want it to be from something like a random-digit-dial survey, the type typically used in public opinion polling, which with enough participants would produce a sample of each state that’s representative of its population and demographics. But the cost of running one such survey for all 50 states plus D.C. would be enormously prohibitive — to say nothing of doing so on a daily basis, which is necessary to produce the kind of real-time data of interest to epidemiologists.

    So the CovidCast team partnered with Facebook, which is used by 70 percent of U.S. adults and has the ability to survey tens of thousands of them every day at relatively low cost. While the resulting state-level samples aren’t perfect representations of the general population, the researchers weight the responses using Census Bureau demographic data to ensure they’re a good approximation.

    “If Facebook’s users are different from the U.S. population generally in a way that the survey weighting process doesn’t account for, then our estimates could be biased,” cautioned Alex Reinhart, a Carnegie Mellon professor of statistics and data science who works on CovidCast and wrote a book on statistical methods. “But if that bias doesn’t change much over time, then we can still use the survey to detect trends and changes.”

    I think this last sentence is important. If their plan is create a time series. Then presumably the bias from using FB data doesnt change from one month to the next. So if by December there is a change in mask wearing in certain states and corresponding change in infections then that is useful information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Bold prediction time. Starting January 22nd the Trump tards here will be claiming they were promised Coronavirus would be gone instantly when Biden takes over. Who am I kidding, thats not a bold prediction and they will do it anyways despite being called out on it months in advance.
    There is another question I wonder about. Which is what happens between Nov 3 and Jan 20 if the seasonal surge in infections that we are beginning to see follows the usual pattern. Do we just sit on our hands waiting for a new president to get sworn in?
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    Its going to be a roller coaster ride of a few months. I kind of expect Trump to go to a scorched Earth policy on his way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Its going to be a roller coaster ride of a few months. I kind of expect Trump to go to a scorched Earth policy on his way out.
    We've had some problematic transitions. Like the one from Buchanan to Lincoln. Back then the lame duck period was even longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Wait...what?

    How long is the turn around where you live? We have 48-hour oral swabs here in north Texas so it's pretty convenient.
    We have some that seem to be around 72 hours, and one of the other places I tried took almost a week.

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    There are some universities with the money who have been testing everyone on campus once or twice a week. The results in terms of preventing outbreaks have been very good.

    Some companies like Amazon have been testing at similar high frequencies. With very good results.

    Sports leagues have done the same. With very good results.

    It takes vision, laidership, commitment and $$, but this is what has been missing in our national policy. High frequency testing is the way to go to avoid having to make awful choices between lives and livelihoods.

    Make the investment in capacity. Cut the wait time for results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'm genuinely curious if the mask obsessed posters here believe that France just all of a sudden stopped wearing them?
    I guess I'll ask a third time since it seems to keep getting missed

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    Germany did indeed set the new record breaking yesterday's record. It was 13,476 cases today

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    The US has a new record, 81,210.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The US has a new record, 81,210.
    Makes me sad. Especially because the longer this takes to get an effective vaccine the more likely we are to see the virus mutate and reinfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Tell that joke to a hospital worker and see if they laugh.

    His math is off. Gonna be over 10 million known US infections by the end of the year, closer to 97%. Probably way more whose symptoms never became bad enough to warrant a test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Tell that joke to a hospital worker and see if they laugh.

    His math is off. Gonna be over 10 million known US infections by the end of the year, closer to 97%. Probably way more whose symptoms never became bad enough to warrant a test.
    You’d be shocked at the sense of humor for the medical field
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    The medical people I know and some on the front lines would for sure make fun of FB and his ilk

    I have the group text messages to prove it too lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    You’d be shocked at the sense of humor for the medical field
    Nah, I grew up watching MASH.

    The medical people know that 99.997% of the time they get the last laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    You’d be shocked at the sense of humor for the medical field
    a lot of dead man's humor
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    States at their highest 7-day avg right now: Illinois, North Carolina (actually peak was oct 18), Tennessee, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Missouri (peak oct 20th), indiana, Minnesota (oct 22nd), Oklahoma, Arkansas, utah, Kentucky, Colorado, Kansas (oct 20th), Nebraska (oct 20th), Idaho, New Mexico, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, West Virginia, Alaska, and Wyoming.

    There are numerous states that are close to their peak, and almost every state is showing an upward trend. Winter is coming all over the world it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    States at their highest 7-day avg right now: Illinois, North Carolina (actually peak was oct 18), Tennessee, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Missouri (peak oct 20th), indiana, Minnesota (oct 22nd), Oklahoma, Arkansas, utah, Kentucky, Colorado, Kansas (oct 20th), Nebraska (oct 20th), Idaho, New Mexico, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, West Virginia, Alaska, and Wyoming.

    There are numerous states that are close to their peak, and almost every state is showing an upward trend. Winter is coming all over the world it seems.
    I think cases have been falling in Brazil and India. Seasonality does seem to be a thing with this virus. A lot of places have maybe developed a false sense of security and let guard down during the down part of the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Tell that joke to a hospital worker and see if they laugh.

    His math is off. Gonna be over 10 million known US infections by the end of the year, closer to 97%. Probably way more whose symptoms never became bad enough to warrant a test.
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