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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    FVs as best I can cobble together data:

    5. Ronald Acuna 65 ($70M)
    12. Ozzie Albies 60 ($60M)
    21. Kyle Wright 60 ($34M)
    42. Luiz Gohara 55 ($22M)
    65. Kolby Allard 55 ($22M)
    67. Kevin Maitan 55 ($38M)
    69. Ian Anderson 55 ($22M)
    72. Mike Soroka 55/50 ($14M-$22M)
    74. Joey Wentz 50 ($14M)
    100. Cristian Pache 50 ($20M)

    While I think he has Soroka a bit low, and Gohara a bit high, I can't disagree with this list too much.

    The biggest agreements I have are Wright clearly ahead of the other pitching prospects, and Albies/Acuna ahead of all pitchers.
    I agree with that. I think soroka and wants are both low 55s but in the end it doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think the lists are illustrative of the strength of the organization.

    Yeah - it's fun to debate who should be ahead of who, but to say "i'm livid" is kind of absurd. Who cares?

    Meanwhile, regarding the list, I'm a bit concerned that so many of our guys fall outside of the top 50... those guys don't usually hit like we hope they will.
    I wouldn't be too concerned. Good chance those outside the top 50 are in it once they get to the majors. Most of them are very young and climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I wouldn't be too concerned. Good chance those outside the top 50 are in it once they get to the majors. Most of them are very young and climbing.
    This. It's exactly why I said last year that it wasn't a big deal that we didn't have more near the top because of their ages. We've seen Acuna and Gohara now fly up the ranking, we'll see Maitan do the same if he has success, and we'll see guys like Allard, Anderson, Pache, and Wentz do the same if they progress as well. Soroka is an interesting case, it looks like the scouting on him may prevent him from ever being ranked extremely high, but he should be able to climb further as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This
    Plus there's still 4 in the top 50.

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    The sheer volume of guys on this list is a big deal. Seeing Swanson and Newk immediately replaced by Wentz and Pache is a big deal. Seeing Acuna and Gohara shoot up the list is a big deal. Adding Wright as a Top 25 guy after being drafted #5 is a big deal.

    Where Soroka is ranked compared to Gohara is probably not that big of a deal. The fact Acuna is a slot below Eloy isn't a big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The sheer volume of guys on this list is a big deal. Seeing Swanson and Newk immediately replaced by Wentz and Pache is a big deal. Seeing Acuna and Gohara shoot up the list is a big deal. Adding Wright as a Top 25 guy after being drafted #5 is a big deal.

    Where Soroka is ranked compared to Gohara is probably not that big of a deal. The fact Acuna is a slot below Eloy isn't a big deal.
    Probably have another top talent to add in what is billed as a great draft next year as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Probably have another top talent to add in what is billed as a great draft next year as well.
    Top 50 guy if they don't screw up

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Top 50 guy if they don't screw up
    If there's one thing this FO can't be criticized for its their drafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If there's one thing this FO can't be criticized for its their drafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If there's one thing this FO can't be criticized for its their drafting.
    you are right. I can't think of any time that we debated about who we drafted or didn't draft. complete harmony on the board for sure. I even think I saw Niners doing the chop on draft days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    you are right. I can't think of any time that we debated about who we drafted or didn't draft. complete harmony on the board for sure. I even think I saw Niners doing the chop on draft days...
    Oh...people have citicized and will continue to do so but the results of the last three drafts have been staggering so far. The players ultimately need to succeed at the majors but not sure you could ask for more. Cue the kyle Lewis discussion....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Oh...people have citicized and will continue to do so but the results of the last three drafts have been staggering so far. The players ultimately need to succeed at the majors but not sure you could ask for more. Cue the kyle Lewis discussion....
    I think they've done a really good job drafting, even though I think they're focus on pitching has hurt them.

    Ultimately, I liked the Allard pick (didn't like Soroka - clearly I was wrong)... and I liked the Wright pick.

    But I HATE the Anderson pick. And yes, our system looks much better, IMO with Kyle Lewis parked in it (oh, and yes, I firmly believe we could have easily gotten Lewis and Wentz - so no need to re-hash that argument)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think they've done a really good job drafting, even though I think they're focus on pitching has hurt them.

    Ultimately, I liked the Allard pick (didn't like Soroka - clearly I was wrong)... and I liked the Wright pick.

    But I HATE the Anderson pick. And yes, our system looks much better, IMO with Kyle Lewis parked in it (oh, and yes, I firmly believe we could have easily gotten Lewis and Wentz - so no need to re-hash that argument)
    I am fine with Anderson, but there is no way anyone could convince me that this board (including myself) would be drooling on the thought of a Acuna/Ender/Lewis outfield. And that could have happened as soon as mid season next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I think they've done a really good job drafting, even though I think they're focus on pitching has hurt them.

    Ultimately, I liked the Allard pick (didn't like Soroka - clearly I was wrong)... and I liked the Wright pick.

    But I HATE the Anderson pick. And yes, our system looks much better, IMO with Kyle Lewis parked in it (oh, and yes, I firmly believe we could have easily gotten Lewis and Wentz - so no need to re-hash that argument)
    I think its a fair argument (Lewis vs Anderson). Still think you don't recognize how highly regarding Anderson is which doesn't necessarily make the pick a bad one or worth hating even if you wanted Lewis.

    But this drafting goes way beyond the players you referenced:

    Riley
    Herbert
    Minter
    Weigel
    Cumberland
    Wilson
    Walker
    Watts
    Clouse


    Thats a lot of guys from 2 drafts that have performed well in the minors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think its a fair argument (Lewis vs Anderson). Still think you don't recognize how highly regarding Anderson is which doesn't necessarily make the pick a bad one or worth hating even if you wanted Lewis.

    But this drafting goes way beyond the players you referenced:

    Riley
    Herbert
    Minter
    Weigel
    Cumberland
    Wilson
    Walker
    Watts
    Clouse


    Thats a lot of guys from 2 drafts that have performed well in the minors.
    Realistically, we might get a couple relievers out of that group

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Realistically, we might get a couple relievers out of that group
    I think Wilson is going to be a starter but the rest are definitely relievers.
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    In the grand scheme of things, all that really matters in the MLB draft is nailing the first 2-3 rounds.

    I will forever be irrationally salty that the Braves didn't draft Lewis though. In the alternate universe where he is a Brave he likely doesn't blow up his knee and is ranked even higher than #41 by now. The prospect of an Acuna/Inciarte/Lewis OF would have been exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post

    I will forever be irrationally salty .......

    we know :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If there's one thing this FO can't be criticized for its their drafting.
    It's easy to question Anderson over Lewis. Really easy. For the most part they have done a really good job of drafting the past few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    It's easy to question Anderson over Lewis. Really easy. For the most part they have done a really good job of drafting the past few years.
    I get the argument and its a fair one to ahve. Let's not act like Anderson isn't a top prospect is in his own right though.
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