Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 27

Thread: ESPN article on Braves to do

  1. #1
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,760
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    981
    Thanked in
    766 Posts

    ESPN article on Braves to do

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/15...s-games-not-it

    My favorite quote: "Some teams have valuable pieces you can trade in July,'' said a rival AL executive. "They didn't sign guys who have value.''-AL executive.

  2. #2
    It's OVER 5,000! msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    37,263
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    404
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,293
    Thanked in
    3,675 Posts
    We signed Teheran and FF. Not saying we should trade em though

  3. #3
    High School Draftee kingphatcow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    90
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    97
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    73
    Thanked in
    33 Posts
    "the organization has reason to believe that rock bottom is in the past

    #GhostWriter
    Not as smart as Meta, but way smarter than Zito.

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to kingphatcow For This Useful Post:

    CJ9 (05-23-2016), JohnAdcox (05-23-2016), Runnin (05-23-2016)

  5. #4
    It's OVER 5,000! striker42's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    10,597
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    387
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,187
    Thanked in
    2,040 Posts
    If Bud Norris keeps it up out of the pen you'll have teams interested in him. Batters have a .566 OPS against him as a reliever. Small sample size but he's not looked bad out of the pen.

    I thought the quote from an AL scout on Olivera was interesting.

    "I wasn't on board even before the incident,'' said one scout. "I saw him when he first came over. I didn't see any power, and it looked like he was on cruise control. I know he was 30 and he played a lot of years in Cuba. But you still have to show up hungry. If you don't and you don't have the tools, then what are you? You're a bust.''

    Pretty much nails it.

  6. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to striker42 For This Useful Post:

    Braves1976 (05-23-2016), bravesnumberone (05-23-2016), Dalyn (05-23-2016), JohnAdcox (05-23-2016), jpx7 (05-23-2016)

  7. #5
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    4,626
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    199
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,328
    Thanked in
    853 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by kingphatcow View Post
    "the organization has reason to believe that rock bottom is in the past

    #GhostWriter
    I know just the ghost that might be:

    Last edited by mqt; 05-23-2016 at 12:43 PM.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to mqt For This Useful Post:

    JohnAdcox (05-23-2016)

  9. #6
    It's OVER 5,000! yeezus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    8,108
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,501
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,720
    Thanked in
    1,122 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I know just the ghost that might be:

    that man is far too visible to be a ghost.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to yeezus For This Useful Post:

    JohnAdcox (05-23-2016)

  11. #7
    It's OVER 5,000!
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    26,261
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    34
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    10,000
    Thanked in
    6,108 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/15...s-games-not-it

    My favorite quote: "Some teams have valuable pieces you can trade in July,'' said a rival AL executive. "They didn't sign guys who have value.''-AL executive.
    This was my biggest gripe about this last offseason. They made almost zero effort to acquire guys who could be flipped at the deadline.

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Enscheff For This Useful Post:

    Braves1976 (05-23-2016), bravesnumberone (05-23-2016)

  13. #8
    Where's My Cup of Coffee?
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    1,182
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    297
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    419
    Thanked in
    221 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    This was my biggest gripe about this last offseason. They made almost zero effort to acquire guys who could be flipped at the deadline.
    I thought both Chacin and Norris were fine gambles.

    Honestly people love to crap on Aybar, but I don't think anybody could have predicted he'd be this bad.

  14. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Preacher For This Useful Post:

    Chico (05-23-2016), JohnAdcox (05-23-2016), mfree80 (05-23-2016), rico43 (05-24-2016), weso1 (05-23-2016)

  15. #9
    It's OVER 5,000! yeezus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    8,108
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,501
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,720
    Thanked in
    1,122 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I thought both Chacin and Norris were fine gambles.

    Honestly people love to crap on Aybar, but I don't think anybody could have predicted he'd be this bad.
    Agreed.
    And Latos was a popular name for us, but he's not pitching great and prob won't be worth much more than Chacin.

  16. #10
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    4,626
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    199
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,328
    Thanked in
    853 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I thought both Chacin and Norris were fine gambles.

    Honestly people love to crap on Aybar, but I don't think anybody could have predicted he'd be this bad.
    Agreed on all of the above. I also think Beckham and KJ were fine gambles that really haven't gone too poorly for us thus far. You aren't always going to be able to pick up reclamation projects and flip them all, especially when a handful of other teams are doing the same thing and money is flowing in to allow contenders to build super benches.

  17. #11
    Steve Harvey'd
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    18,946
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,856
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,329
    Thanked in
    3,353 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Agreed.
    And Latos was a popular name for us, but he's not pitching great and prob won't be worth much more than Chacin.
    I was happy with the pitching pick ups. offensively speaking I hated the Boni signing.. was meh when Frenchy and Stubbs signed. I was happy with the Flower's signing, but they refuse to install him as the everyday catcher, even with AJ being awful all around. I just think we should have kept Swisher and Bourn and platooned them.. but that would have pushed our prize position HO back to 3rd... But the Braves just ****dumped 30 million dollars (less what Tribe sent).. and got nothing for it... I think the FO got cocky that HO was going to be good this year and play a serviceable LF.. they got majorly burned on that one.

  18. #12
    It's OVER 5,000! yeezus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    8,108
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,501
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,720
    Thanked in
    1,122 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I was happy with the pitching pick ups. offensively speaking I hated the Boni signing.. was meh when Frenchy and Stubbs signed. I was happy with the Flower's signing, but they refuse to install him as the everyday catcher, even with AJ being awful all around. I just think we should have kept Swisher and Bourn and platooned them.. but that would have pushed our prize position HO back to 3rd... But the Braves just ****dumped 30 million dollars (less what Tribe sent).. and got nothing for it... I think the FO got cocky that HO was going to be good this year and play a serviceable LF.. they got majorly burned on that one.
    I think Bourn and Swish had little to do with HO. Those two really just can't play anymore and weren't going to have any value. You can't play Swish anywhere in the field without him being a major trainwreck.

    I also did no care for Francoeur, Stubbs, or Boni. Mallex needs to play every day.

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to yeezus For This Useful Post:

    JohnAdcox (05-23-2016)

  20. #13
    Swallowed by Mark Bowman
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,545
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    86
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,743
    Thanked in
    1,269 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by kingphatcow View Post
    "the organization has reason to believe that rock bottom is in the past

    #GhostWriter



  21. #14
    Steve Harvey'd
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    18,946
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,856
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,329
    Thanked in
    3,353 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    I think Bourn and Swish had little to do with HO. Those two really just can't play anymore and weren't going to have any value. You can't play Swish anywhere in the field without him being a major trainwreck.

    I also did no care for Francoeur, Stubbs, or Boni. Mallex needs to play every day.
    our team this year is a train wreck. I would have tried to play them to about 250 PA in the first half. then offered them to a team with the Braves picking up the rest of this year. If nothing else, cut Bourn.. who is toast.. and pray Swisher has something left. I understand, I would probably still have to just cut him at the deadline.. but bringing in this other garbage for a few million here and there was just dumb.. they are all train wrecks..

  22. #15
    It's OVER 5,000! yeezus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    8,108
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,501
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,720
    Thanked in
    1,122 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    our team this year is a train wreck. I would have tried to play them to about 250 PA in the first half. then offered them to a team with the Braves picking up the rest of this year. If nothing else, cut Bourn.. who is toast.. and pray Swisher has something left. I understand, I would probably still have to just cut him at the deadline.. but bringing in this other garbage for a few million here and there was just dumb.. they are all train wrecks..
    I understand, but Swisher can't even stand in the field and pretend to be more than a scarecrow. At least the other guys can move.

  23. #16
    "What is a clvclv"
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Nebo, NC
    Posts
    9,634
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5,354
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,340
    Thanked in
    1,628 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Agreed.
    And Latos was a popular name for us, but he's not pitching great and prob won't be worth much more than Chacin.
    FWIW, I think Latos was mainly a popular name for some of us here on the board - I don't really recall us being tied to him much in the media (not that it makes any difference).

    Norris might be able to fetch a little something similar to the Chacin return. If Grilli were throwing more strikes, he could get a little more. The funny thing about Grilli is that he might very well be more valuable to us as a depth piece/"fill-in" option in the late innings for the rest of his deal since he's so cheap. It's really not going to be long before he's likely to lose regular late-inning opportunities with Simmons getting closer by the day and Withrow lighting it up at Gwinnett as well (9 Ks, 4BBs, 0 ER in 7 IP since he was sent down). Jim Johnson should be DFA'd as soon as he's activated - I'm betting Snitker won't use him enough (and I wouldn't blame him) to build any value - even if it's possible.

    KC's apparently still somewhat interested in Swisher, with money still an issue. If I were Coppy, I wouldn't think twice about calling Dayton and offering to pay $15 million of what's left on his deal to get Chase Vallot and several international bonus slots.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

  24. #17
    10 yr, $185 million Extension
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,557
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    261
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,520
    Thanked in
    1,477 Posts
    I don't think we're going to be trading for international slots. We're going to go so far above our allotment that it wouldn't matter much. I'd rather see us do the reverse and deal away our international slots since we're going over it no matter what. It's another sneaky way to get assets. I wonder if that's something we do over the next two weeks as we try to trade for more draft picks.

  25. #18
    It's OVER 5,000! bravesnumberone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    17,031
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3,314
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,977
    Thanked in
    2,003 Posts
    I get angrier about the Olivera trade every time I'm reminded about it.

  26. #19
    It's OVER 5,000! yeezus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    8,108
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,501
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,720
    Thanked in
    1,122 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    I get angrier about the Olivera trade every time I'm reminded about it.
    at least that's productive.

  27. #20
    Steve Harvey'd
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    18,946
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,856
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,329
    Thanked in
    3,353 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    I get angrier about the Olivera trade every time I'm reminded about it.
    you might need to hide in a hole for a bit then.. I have a feeling that one will haunt us for a little while now. I just pray #40 and Paco turn out to be good.

Similar Threads

  1. ICHIRO article in ESPN - When Winter Never Ends
    By Runnin in forum 2023: Celebrating Our 10th Year Here
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 03-11-2018, 10:41 AM
  2. ESPN article re Heyward and Freeman
    By Southcack77 in forum 2023: Celebrating Our 10th Year Here
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-09-2017, 03:43 PM
  3. GDT #68. 6/15. Angels(H. Santiago) @ Braves(M. Minor) ESPN
    By tomahawkchop10 in forum 2014 Gamethreads
    Replies: 268
    Last Post: 06-16-2014, 03:21 PM
  4. Good ESPN article on Freeman (and Heyward and Wood)
    By CyYoung31 in forum 2023: Celebrating Our 10th Year Here
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 04-03-2014, 03:35 PM
  5. Freddie Article on ESPN
    By Gary82 in forum 2023: Celebrating Our 10th Year Here
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 07-12-2013, 01:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •