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    Braves Decline Dickey’s option exercise Flowers

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    That brings the projected 2018 payroll to $96.1M.

    I was told by sources who are brilliant baseball minds that the Braves will have a Top 10 payroll ($160M+), and at the VERY LEAST stay flat from last year ($120M-$125M). That is a lot of money available to spend on 1-2 BP arms!
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    I heard rumors that with the new spring training complex we should be able to move into top 5 payroll.

    Then and only then should we be able to sign Kemp to that long term contract extension he so deservedly earned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwood1Hitter View Post
    I heard rumors that with the new spring training complex we should be able to move into top 5 payroll.
    Well, not right away, but once all the little bars and shops around the complex are full of people....OH MY!! $$$$

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    Next easy cost cutting move will be to deal MAdams. Braves are in no position to be paying a bench bat nearly $5M...as evidenced by them trading SRod.

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    not a good sign re payroll

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    So does this mean that they will still offer a buyout or is it now just a formality with him leaning toward retirement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    not a good sign re payroll
    I'm not going to panic over payroll yet. There are a lot of other things at play in regards to Dickey. He's still not sure whether or not he'll hang it up. If we exercise his option, that's a lot of money we have tied up. Dickey could wait and see how he feels in the spring and then decide not to pitch leaving us with money and nothing to spend it on. Conversely, he could announce retirement without filing the papers. If we spend that money and he decides not to retire, we'd still owe him for 2018.

    Without a guarantee that he's going to pitch in 2018, I think declining his option is the smart thing to do. We could always sign him to a one year deal if he later on decides to pitch.

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    wouldn't an chat with dicke and his agent clear most of that up
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    I'm not going to panic over payroll yet. There are a lot of other things at play in regards to Dickey. He's still not sure whether or not he'll hang it up. If we exercise his option, that's a lot of money we have tied up. Dickey could wait and see how he feels in the spring and then decide not to pitch leaving us with money and nothing to spend it on. Conversely, he could announce retirement without filing the papers. If we spend that money and he decides not to retire, we'd still owe him for 2018.

    Without a guarantee that he's going to pitch in 2018, I think declining his option is the smart thing to do. We could always sign him to a one year deal if he later on decides to pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    wouldn't an chat with dicke and his agent clear most of that up
    not if he's currently unsure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I'm not going to panic over payroll yet. There are a lot of other things at play in regards to Dickey. He's still not sure whether or not he'll hang it up. If we exercise his option, that's a lot of money we have tied up. Dickey could wait and see how he feels in the spring and then decide not to pitch leaving us with money and nothing to spend it on. Conversely, he could announce retirement without filing the papers. If we spend that money and he decides not to retire, we'd still owe him for 2018.

    Without a guarantee that he's going to pitch in 2018, I think declining his option is the smart thing to do. We could always sign him to a one year deal if he later on decides to pitch.
    Of course you don't think it means anything.

    Pozzies are going to keep their head in the sand until opening day when payroll is $100M-$110M. Then they will look around, wipe the sand from their eyes, and make up another excuse about why the decreased payroll is actually a GOOD thing. Then, plop, right back in the sand.
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    I never expected us to retain Dickey, so this makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    not if he's currently unsure.
    I don't think he's the kind of guy who would keep us waiting for a firm answer for long...a simple conversation would allow us to let him know we need an answer by a certain date

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I never expected us to retain Dickey, so this makes sense to me.
    I was in favor of dumping him to upgrade that spot in the rotation with a guy like Odorizzi or a mid-tier FA.

    Now that it looks like the Braves are going to decease payroll from 2017, dumping Dickey still makes sense.

    It's not a bad move by any means. It just likely means the Braves aren't going to be spending much money this off season.

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    I think the next move is releasing Santana. I'd release Jace and Santana, but we definitely don't need both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Of course you don't think it means anything.

    Pozzies are going to keep their head in the sand until opening day when payroll is $100M-$110M. Then they will look around, wipe the sand from their eyes, and make up another excuse about why the decreased payroll is actually a GOOD thing. Then, plop, right back in the sand.
    As a pozzie, I am fine with 110 payroll. We have so much stink on us from the garbage we have signed/traded for, I am perfectly fine with letting some of it play out next year and spend more in the bigger FA class after the 2018 season. I think this year should be a transition year where we let guys who just came up and who will be coming up play, so we have a better understanding of need and value. Now how that relates or tells the story of revenue, I don't care until next off season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    As a pozzie, I am fine with 110 payroll. We have so much stink on us from the garbage we have signed/traded for, I am perfectly fine with letting some of it play out next year and spend more in the bigger FA class after the 2018 season. I think this year should be a transition year where we let guys who just came up and who will be coming up play, so we have a better understanding of need and value. Now how that relates or tells the story of revenue, I don't care until next off season.
    See, I knew you guys would come up with pozzy-spin for a decreased payroll haha!

    You covered the "save the money for 2019" angle.

    The other angles pozzies will lean on are "don't spend money just to spend it", and "they aren't REALLY trying to win in 2018".

    Actually, I think you also worked in the "they aren't really trying to win" narrative. Well done!!
    Last edited by Enscheff; 10-23-2017 at 12:21 PM.

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