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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That's a damming report. Basically AA saying the braves bungled Swanson.
    Remember when folks on this board said that very thing, and we were told the FO knew what they were doing? Remember when we went round and round about wasting Swanson's value, and all the pozzies said it was no big deal?

    Remember when pozzies were ever right about anything? No? Me neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Remember when folks on this board said that very thing, and we were told the FO knew what they were doing? Remember when we went round and round about wasting Swanson's value, and all the pozzies said it was no big deal?

    Remember when pozzies were ever right about anything? No? Me neither.
    Wait... I thought you had declared yourself to be a Pozzie now.

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    DOB says the Braves are looking at shortstops who can be a supersub.

    http://www.myajc.com/sports/baseball...IsTyhDQkWGkVL/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    DOB says the Braves are looking at shortstops who can be a supersub.

    http://www.myajc.com/sports/baseball...IsTyhDQkWGkVL/
    http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts...n=ALL&teamid=0

    There's your list of SS FAs. Cozart and junk.

    With Albies, Swanson and Camargo all capable of playing SS, why exactly do they need a super sub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    DOB says the Braves are looking at shortstops who can be a supersub.

    http://www.myajc.com/sports/baseball...IsTyhDQkWGkVL/
    Time to fire AA - what an idiot. How stupid do you need to be to keep from blocking a *hitty prospect like Riley?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Time to fire AA - what an idiot. How stupid do you need to be to keep from blocking a *hitty prospect like Riley?!?!?
    About as stupid as someone who thinks MAdams is worth Odorizzi straight up?

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    Time to see if Camargo can play
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    I'm not sure what to make of this article. I tend to be skeptical of everything quoted and written this tme of the year, but the one thing that seems to be a constant with AA since the beginning remarks has been a focus on defense.
    Looking at the roster Markakis and Kemp are the obvious choices to upgrade. Acuna will take one spot, but LF could be where he looks to get his run producer.
    He may decide to let Camargo have a shot and evaluate Riley another year if he can upgrade in LF. I think Camargo is more valuable as a supersub and I'd rather address 3B this offseason and flip Riley. However, if he can move Kemp and Markakis he could find a legit middle of the order LF'er easier than he could find a legit middle of the order 3B.

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    An out-there thought on a slow afternoon...

    Since AA has no particular attachment to Swanson, I wonder if he'd consider moving Albies back to SS and dealing Dansby. If the Royals go full-blown rebuild, has anyone seen enough out of Whit Merrifield to be interested in him at 2B? What about making a move for Danny Duffy? (Not that Dansby would be part of an offer for either - maybe he's dealt in some other trade.)
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    Why would you trade Swanson now. What do you plan to get for him.
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    This is not the time to trade Swanson. His value is at its lowest right now and the market is ridiculously thin for shortstops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Why would you trade Swanson now. What do you plan to get for him.
    I have no idea - simply an open-ended question. I have no idea if someone might be more sold on him than AA might be - there are obviously plenty of people here who would move him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    This is not the time to trade Swanson. His value is at its lowest right now and the market is ridiculously thin for shortstops.
    Part of the reason I ask - the recent article said they weren't looking to replace him, but we know how that goes.

    (Like I said - slow afternoon.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    An out-there thought on a slow afternoon...

    Since AA has no particular attachment to Swanson, I wonder if he'd consider moving Albies back to SS and dealing Dansby. If the Royals go full-blown rebuild, has anyone seen enough out of Whit Merrifield to be interested in him at 2B? What about making a move for Danny Duffy? (Not that Dansby would be part of an offer for either - maybe he's dealt in some other trade.)
    If we considered trading Swanson, I’d build a package around him to the rays for Longoria/Odorizzi. Then have albies at SS Comargo at 2b.

    Inciarte Cf
    Albies ss
    Freeman 1b
    Longoria 3b
    Kemp lf
    Markakis rf
    Flowers c
    Camargo 2b

    Teheran
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    Gohara/freid
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    It would be monumentally stupid to sell low on Swanson now. Even dumber than promoting him as early as the Braves did.

    But not dumber than thinking they can get Odorizzi for MAdams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It would be monumentally stupid to sell low on Swanson now. Even dumber than promoting him as early as the Braves did.

    But not dumber than thinking they can get Odorizzi for MAdams.
    Probably not Odorizzi, but definitely Chris Archer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    For some reason, people find it convenient to forget that. He was called up after 377 PAs in AA in which he posted a .261/.342/.402 slash line. With a fairly normal-looking BABIP of .309. That's not bad. But it also was not the kind of performance that called for aggressive promotion. And then there is the whole service time matter, which is not trivial
    Worse, he looked absolutely spent on the field at the time. He was dragging HARD when he was called up. The call up lit a fire under him again, but that is like downing a cup of coffee to get a few more hours of work rather than resting. You don't get the sleep you need in the end and pay for it down the road eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Probably not Odorizzi, but definitely Chris Archer.
    ....I'd offer more for Odorizzi than Archer. Not what's discussed here, but Archer is well overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggentleben View Post
    ....I'd offer more for Odorizzi than Archer. Not what's discussed here, but Archer is well overrated.
    Noted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    But not dumber than thinking they can get Odorizzi for MAdams.
    Might be time to think about letting that one go now, mate. It's the holiday season, after all.

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