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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    guessing cernovich knows that answer.
    why not just say ?

    my guess would be them regurgitating Benghazi or birth certificate nonsense.
    cant recall a retraction or apology though
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    CNN had to retract falsified reports about those topics?
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    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ca...rticle/2642982

    This nonsense was used to force sessions to recuse himself that started this absurd partisan witch hunt. Got to give the left credit. They always control the dialogue.
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    partisan witch hunt...nice...where have I heard that one before
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    partisan witch hunt...nice...where have I heard that one before
    I'd imagine any person who isn't a rabid leftist still crushed over the 2016 election.

    Recent cbs poll just showed almost 50% of Americans think this investigation is a partisan one.
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    thethe, that wasn't the basis upon which Sessions recused himself. I mean, there's not even a legit argument that he shouldn't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    thethe, that wasn't the basis upon which Sessions recused himself. I mean, there's not even a legit argument that he shouldn't have.

    By my reading it's because he failed to disclose Russian contacts. Please correct me and I'll admit my folly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'd imagine any person who isn't a rabid leftist still crushed over the 2016 election.

    Recent cbs poll just showed almost 50% of Americans think this investigation is a partisan one.
    As I have said before Trump is being Benghazied on a grand scale. It is how politics is played.

    But there is also a compelling public interest in conducting a thorough investigation of what Russia did in the past election cycle, including any possible quid pro quo with the Trump campaign. The attempts to get to the bottom of things have both partisan elements (call it a witch hunt if you want) and compelling public interest elements. Having said that, I don't think the Mueller investigation itself is a partisan witch hunt. It serves the purposes of Trumpophiles to paint it as such and try to undermine its legitimacy. But there is a distinction between what they are trying to paint it as and what it really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    As I have said before Trump is being Benghazied on a grand scale. It is how politics is played.

    But there is also a compelling public interest in conducting a thorough investigation of what Russia did in the past election cycle, including any possible quid pro quo with the Trump campaign. It has both partisan elements (call it a witch hunt if you want) and compelling public interest elements.
    You seem to want to muddle the obvious need for an investigation and the dismal of its partisan nature. The tw are mutually exclusive and the investigation could have and should have been administered to a much less obvious political bias lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    CNN had to retract falsified reports about those topics?
    CNN doesn't have to retract anything

    Unlike Fox, when they make an error they try to correct it -

    as for those two instances, it was implications as opposed to straight out reporting it as fact.

    Often the implication is worse than the accusation
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    By my reading it's because he failed to disclose Russian contacts. Please correct me and I'll admit my folly.
    I'm not a hundred percent sure about this, but I believe he failed to do this during either an FBI interview or while filling out his security clearance form. Everyone remembers the question from Frankel. But I think there was an issue that goes beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You seem to want to muddle the obvious need for an investigation and the dismal of its partisan nature. The tw are mutually exclusive and the investigation could have and should have been administered to a much less obvious political bias lens.
    Well to me the Mueller investigation has been conducted in an apolitical way. I'm sure you disagree with this. But that's how I see it. Unlike you and others I am not disturbed by the composition of his team. I don't see their work as being tainted by political bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Well to me the Mueller investigation has been conducted in an apolitical way. I'm sure you disagree with this. But that's how I see it. Unlike you and others I am not disturbed by the composition of his team. I don't see their work as being tainted by political bias.
    Again - The political bias on its own it not a problem. It needs to be a data point in an overall analysis and when coupled with the treatment of the HRC investigation I believe it warrants an investigation.

    There are many capable lawyers that could have been chosen that are much less partisan (at least outwardly appearance) that would not have caused an alarm at all. This is not the Trumpies creating this. This is Muellers fault for not even trying to build a team that is free of partisanship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'm not a hundred percent sure about this, but I believe he failed to do this during either an FBI interview or while filling out his security clearance form. Everyone remembers the question from Frankel. But I think there was an issue that goes beyond that.
    Yes - He did fail to disclose a contact at the time but a retrospective analysis (in the article I referenced) leads me to believe that he was not in the wrong to do so. Meetings with foreign ambassadors are common amongUS senators and documentation has showed many prominent democrats met with the Russians at or around the same time.

    Whether or not this was the sole reason for Sessions recusal it was clearly a 'fire starter' to get it going and apparently it was based on a false claim that Sessions broke the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Again - The political bias on its own it not a problem.
    I don't see any political bias. I see a serious apolitical investigation. What I do see is an attempt by Trumpophiles to undermine the legitimacy of the investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    CNN doesn't have to retract anything

    Unlike Fox, when they make an error they try to correct it -

    as for those two instances, it was implications as opposed to straight out reporting it as fact.

    Often the implication is worse than the accusation
    Yeah - They have to correct the reports because they release such egregiously wrong reporting that it is damaging to the country.

    Again, show where CNN put out a clear incorrect story about Obama/HRC that had to be retracted becasue of its obvious inaccuracies. Otherwise, just nod your head and realize that the Liberal media is out to get Conservatives/Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This is Muellers fault for not even trying to build a team that is free of partisanship.
    My belief is Mueller chose his team based on his assessment of their competence. And I'm good with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I don't see any political bias. I see a serious apolitical investigation. What I do see is an attempt by Trumpophiles to undermine the legitimacy of the investigation.
    You don't see political bias with the investigators?

    I am not talking about the investigation at all right now. First step is to show political bias. Next step is to analyze the actions. First part has been proven. Now its on to the second step. Then you can determine if this investigation is potentially suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I don't see any political bias. I see a serious apolitical investigation. What I do see is an attempt by Trumpophiles to undermine the legitimacy of the investigation.
    Which is easy to do ... when elements of the investigation aren’t truly apolitical.

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