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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    If our future looks like:
    CF: ?
    LF: ?
    RF: Markakus in year 3 and 4
    1B: FF
    2b: Paraza
    SS: Simmons
    3B: Peterson
    C: CB

    Then we need a some power out in LF. I doubt we get it in CF. That line up would project to be very good defensively (at least in the infield) and have OBP but FF is prob the only person hitting over 15 HR. Maybe Cb but his OBP is prob going to be 0.300 or worse. In that case you are probably hoping last year's first round pick is a hitting prodigy and he can play LF regardless of how bad it would probably be.
    M. Smith? CF
    Peraza 2B
    JUP again? ;) LF
    Freeeeeman 1B
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    Ruiz/Peterson 2B

    I think that's a pretty competitive lineup that's stable up and down. Do I think we will get JUP back? Nah, but you never know. You could throw it a guy like Cespedes there as well.

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    Seems obvious to me we will be going after a right handed power hitter to play left. It is our most glaring need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Seems obvious to me we will be going after a right handed power hitter to play left. It is our most glaring need.
    I remember when that was our big need......and we filled it with uggla....and I thought it was a GREAT move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yes he is. The Braves' roster was loaded with talent. Last year didn't work out. The previous 4 did very much
    Remind me again how many playoff wins we had?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaBrave14 View Post
    Remind me again how many playoff wins we had?
    The roster was very flawed. And there was NOTHING in the minors to keep going. You need a farm system. We didn't have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaBrave14 View Post
    Remind me again how many playoff wins we had?
    1 game? But you build teams to make the playoffs not win in them since that's getting hot at the right time, etc.

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    Baseball in a short sample will always have an element of randomness to it but I think you can still construct a team that will fair better in a playoff type scenario than others. Primarily that has to do with elite pitching but I think the contact/plate discipline guys do better against better pitchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    1 game? But you build teams to make the playoffs not win in them since that's getting hot at the right time, etc.
    That's what teams that don't win in the playoffs say.

    Giants must be really good at getting hot at the right time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think the contact/plate discipline guys do better against better pitchers.
    Do you have any proof of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    That's two different things though. You don't need a good offense to be a good team and thus make the WS. Having power is very important to having a good offense. And also the two teams were WC teams which means that's more of an indication of the current playoff format then it is about a team being good. Baseball is a marathon sport which sucks becauase being a world champion means winning a sprint. It's great for the fans and popularity of the game but the best teams rarely are world champiosn anymore.
    yet the Giants have won three recently without a ton of power. they don't strike out and pitch well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChapelHillMatt View Post
    That's what teams that don't win in the playoffs say.

    Giants must be really good at getting hot at the right time.
    Yeah, we need to trade for their magic potion

    Or Madison Bumgarner

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChapelHillMatt View Post
    That's what teams that don't win in the playoffs say.

    Giants must be really good at getting hot at the right time.
    Cox, LaRussa, and Torre have all said this. I guess they never had teams that won in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Do you have any proof of this?
    I do not and that is why I prefaced it with the words "I think".
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    yet the Giants have won three recently without a ton of power. they don't strike out and pitch well.
    They have also had insane pitching at the right time. Don't need to score much at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Cox, LaRussa, and Torre have all said this. I guess they never had teams that won in the playoffs.
    I just don't agree with it. Teams that have clutch hitting and great pitching win in the playoffs. Teams that win championships aren't 'lucky'. That's basically what you are inferring when you say all you have to do is "get hot at the right time"

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    I just refuse to believe the Giants got lucky 3 out of 5 years. Its not all by design but its not all luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChapelHillMatt View Post
    I just don't agree with it. Teams that have clutch hitting and great pitching win in the playoffs. Teams that win championships aren't 'lucky'. That's basically what you are inferring when you say all you have to do is "get hot at the right time"
    So you don't think the Giants were lucky that Madison Bumgardener decided to have the best month of his life? They were just clutch? If the Giants and Royals were so clutch why didn't they have more wins in the regular season? Again, anything can happen in a short series. The best teams generally don't win the world series. That's the nature of the playoffs. You can win 87 games and ride 1 pitcher to the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    yet the Giants have won three recently without a ton of power. they don't strike out and pitch well.
    They were league average in terms of power and k rate in 2014 (above league average when you account for home park)
    They were below league average in terms of k rate in 2012, but league average in power (above when you account for home park)
    They were slightly below average in terms of k rate in 2010, but significantly above average in power.
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    Then why even have the playoffs. Just crown the team with the best record the champion. You are really devaluing the playoffs when you say stuff like this. Also why is it the Braves never luck their way to a title? It's always other teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I do not and that is why I prefaced it with the words "I think".
    Then what is the purpose of saying if it's coming from thin air and has absolutely no value.
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