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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Fredi is the main reason the Braves traded for Uggla. Fredi is the reason Uggla is treated differently than BJ.
    Not necessarily, you seem to forget that Fredi benched Uggla for a time down the stretch last year when he was struggling mightily.

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    I will say that while neither of them have done much positive, Uggla's 21 HR may have kept him from being team goat for a while. I do think he agreed to LASIK to keep from being benched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsportscaster View Post
    Not necessarily, you seem to forget that Fredi benched Uggla for a time down the stretch last year when he was struggling mightily.
    That was after more than a full year with the team. BJ was benched (and juggled around in the lineup) the first time on day 9. 9! Dan didn't get benched for even a day until the middle of July.

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    That day in July, by the way, was the only day Dan had off all year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That was after more than a full year with the team. BJ was benched (and juggled around in the lineup) the first time on day 9. 9! Dan didn't get benched for even a day until the middle of July.
    I do think BJ can be a hard guy to slot in a lineup. He doesn't walk enough to lead off, doesn't go the other way enough to hit in the 2-hole...he's a hard guy to put in one specific slot. That was true before he went completely in the crapper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopdrew View Post
    I do think BJ can be a hard guy to slot in a lineup. He doesn't walk enough to lead off, doesn't go the other way enough to hit in the 2-hole...he's a hard guy to put in one specific slot. That was true before he went completely in the crapper.
    When a player lacks consistency, a manager can help by creating consistency in the areas they can control. Lineup. Playing time. Practice. etc etc

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    No, Chip, it wasn't Angel Pagan for Zack Wheeler. It was Beltran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    When a player lacks consistency, a manager can help by creating consistency in the areas they can control. Lineup. Playing time. Practice. etc etc
    Help me out here.Are you blaming Fredi for Bj's struggles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopdrew View Post
    Help me out here.Are you blaming Fredi for Bj's struggles?
    I wouldn't blame Fredi per se but I don't think he is doing what he should to help him get out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    No, Chip, it wasn't Angel Pagan for Zack Wheeler. It was Beltran.
    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopdrew View Post
    Help me out here.Are you blaming Fredi for Bj's struggles?

    Obviously, something is off with BJ. That is one issue. Fredi is not giving him the opportunity to get out there and work through it when we have a 15+ game lead in the division. That is another issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I wouldn't blame Fredi per se but I don't think he is doing what he should to help him get out of it.
    Let me ask you this; I'm assuming that so many people are advocating BJ playing bc o the commanding lead the Braves have in the division. If it were a tight race, would you still advocate playing him? Again, I'm not wanting to be argumentative, I'm just curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopdrew View Post
    Let me ask you this; I'm assuming that so many people are advocating BJ playing bc o the commanding lead the Braves have in the division. If it were a tight race, would you still advocate playing him? Again, I'm not wanting to be argumentative, I'm just curious...
    Thats a good question. I would probably go with a straight platoon unless BJ started showing some more. But if both start to not hit then I would go with BJ full time.
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    Thats a bad play by Freeman. He needs to catch that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Seriously?
    He corrected himself after the commercial break. IIRC the Braves were in on the Beltran sweepstakes too, the Mets wanted none other than Mike Minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    He corrected himself after the commercial break. IIRC the Braves were in on the Beltran sweepstakes too, the Mets wanted none other than Mike Minor.

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    Jon Heyman just tweeted Chase Headley just went on waivers...

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