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    Anybody who still maintains that 'sanctions' mean **** to Russia hasn't been paying attention for ... a while.

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    oh, adoptions


    are you ****ing serious ?


    tell me about nuclear plants in Saudi Arabia
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    Remember when we decimated the Russian economy after they invaded and annexed a portion of the Ukraine?

    Oh, yeah, that's right.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...rainian_crisis

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    Annexed? I thought they "adopted"

    Yesterday CNN - today, Wikipedia
    .................................................. ....

    The real Tillerson story ?

    " In February 2015, Exxon Mobil reported losing about $1 billion due to sanctions.[91] "


    Remind me, the subject of the June 6 Trump Tower meeting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I can assure you that is definitely not the story.
    ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Yesterday CNN - today, Wikipedia
    .................................................. ....

    The real Tillerson story ?

    " In February 2015, Exxon Mobil reported losing about $1 billion due to sanctions.[91] "


    Remind me, the subject of the June 6 Trump Tower meeting

    I'm trying to stick with things you can easily digest.

    Not working, obviously.

    What did you put in that coffee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You're taking the position that tillerson was fired because of that issue?
    I don't think that was the proximate cause of his firing, no. I thought he was a dead man walking ever since the "****ing moron" story. But McMaster's case illustrates that even lowest common denominator real talk is not exactly welcomed.

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    One thing I understand ?

    The Russians bet the farm to have sanctions lifted.
    Fairly certain Putin was not looking out for Bulgarian interests.
    Or particularly cared
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    “President Trump agreed with Prime Minister May that the Government of the Russian Federation must provide unambiguous answers regarding how this chemical weapon, developed in Russia, came to be used in the United Kingdom,” the White House said in a brief statement on the call.“The two leaders agreed on the need for consequences for those who use these heinous weapons in flagrant violation of international norms.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1GP2KQ
    Noted that this was released after the readout of the call from the UK side.

    I guess I should be thankful that they're at least paying lip service to the old Special Relationship

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    One thing I understand ?

    The Russians bet the farm to have sanctions lifted.
    Fairly certain Putin was not looking out for Bulgarian interests.
    Or particularly cared
    First of all, Bulgaria? What are you talking about?

    Secondly, sanctions against Russia for their invasion of the Ukraine were a) an international effort and b) should not be confused with the sanctions we levied against them in 2017 for 2016 meddling

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    The 2016-17, to the best of my knowledge, were never levied.


    Still sittin' on ya boy's desk

    .....................

    Amazing source of info that Wikipedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The 2016-17, to the best of my knowledge, were never levied.


    Still sittin' on ya boy's desk
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/29/polit...use/index.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/u...sanctions.html

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    "to the best of my knowledge"

    he uttered
    while confusing
    bulgaria with ukraine
    and sanctions
    with adoption

    sad.

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    oh, ok, i forgot about those.

    The latest are siting on his desk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    "to the best of my knowledge"

    he uttered
    while confusing
    bulgaria with ukraine
    and sanctions
    with adoption

    sad.
    "Former Bulgarian Prime Minister Boiko Borisov stated, "I don't know how Russia is affected by the sanctions, but Bulgaria is affected severely"
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    I'm sure you forgot about these too: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/w...a-ukraine.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    "Former Bulgarian Prime Minister Boiko Borisov stated, "I don't know how Russia is affected by the sanctions, but Bulgaria is affected severely"
    http://www.newsweek.com/russiarussia...nctions-603431

    RUSSIAN SANCTIONS TO 'COST EUROPE €100BN'

    This might explain a few things.

    Something tells me it won't though.

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    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Something tells me it won't though.

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