jpx7 (01-15-2014)
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
LOL at people suggesting going through training in order to own a gun. Do rights mean nothing anymore?
sturg33 (01-15-2014)
The problem is we've distributed so many guns into circulation legally and illegally to the point where not only good guys have them but bad guys have had access to them as well.
And the only "solution" the right has is to bring more guns into the picture legally.
The entire point is to curb gun violence by lowering and discouraging the amount of guns in circulation, but everytime "liberals" try to make the argument, the right comes back with the 2nd Amendment crap and Obama is coming to take all your guns and put you in concentration camps cynicism. From there we can never make any actual progress on anything.
Forever Fredi
jpx7 (01-15-2014)
Julio3000 (01-15-2014)
Hawk (01-15-2014)
I'm trying to say that guns aren't the issue. Bad people are the issue. Most of the gun violence happens in major cities in (shockingly) gun-free zones. I saw an interesting stat the other day (though I haven't fact-checked it).
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by:
Obama: 19
Romney: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Obama: 580,000
Romney: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Obama: 127 million
Romney: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2
Romney: 2.1
For their part the liberals blew it by going too far with their proposed legislation. Rather than concentrate on the real issue of gun violence, handguns in the hands of unscrupulous citizens and black on black crime, they tried to ban guns that are involved in a very very small percentage of homicides, homicides which very well would have occurred even if assault rifles were banned. The population was ready for more stringent gun regulation, but liberal politicians let emotions get the best of them.
thank you weso1!
Tapate50 (01-15-2014)
Yes and No.
Something as simple as the background checks debacle was just NRA cronies building it up as Obama building up a database so he could invade your home and relocate you to a concentration camp. HIDE YO KIDS HIDE YO WIFE. As if he couldn't already just use the NSA to find out where you live.
Forever Fredi
Had Obama strictly concentrated on more stringent background checks, it would have passed. The bigger issue here though is black on black crime. Maybe a good jobs bill is a better solution than gun control?
thank you weso1!
AerchAngel (01-18-2014)