Around Baseball Offseason Edition - Derek Jeter will retire at seasons end

[yeezus]

Winning 96 games as one of the youngest teams in baseball doesn't have you confident about the core moving forward?

It's crazy to me.
I'm more excited about our young pitching than our young hitting. Teheran's performance last year is really encouraging, and Minor was awesome. If Medlen is our #3 by the end of the year, that's great. Wood looked good as well, and I'm not sure how you don't give him a shot this year. Starting pitching is expensive, and if it isn't a clear upgrade or a 1,2 year deal for not 10 mil tops, you have to go with what you've got and let it grow.

I think Wren is also smart to wait on this market. He couldn't, wouldn't, and shouldn't give 22 mil to Scott Kazmir. Do we think he will definitely be better than Wood? 20 million better over the next two years? Come on.

We got Upton last year at his current price. If he were a FA, he'd have cost a lot more $$. Wren has to make the smart AND cost-efficient move.

[Heyward]

Not to win a WS no.

We need major help on the bench. And being an NL team it matters our bench is good.

We need an 8th inning man and another loogy for the pen.

We need 1 SP.

Major, no, we need maybe 1-2 pieces for the bench.

Have plenty for an 8th inning guy, not many LOOGY's out there.

SP depends what it would cost in a trade, none of these SP's in FA intrigue me.

[yeezus]

I would rather get the SP no instead of during the season when they cost way more. I just don't think Beachy will ever be as good and what people here make him out to be.

What are people currently making him out to be? A 4th or 5th starter? Do you know what the average #5 starter looks like? Beachy could be a GREAT #5.

[Heyward]

Beachy at BEST is a #4 or 5.

He has #2-3 potential but we'll see how his injury affects him.

I dont see the big deal going in with Wood and Beachy as our 4-5.

[skidlee]

What are people currently making him out to be? A 4th or 5th starter? Do you know what the average #5 starter looks like? Beachy could be a GREAT #5.

They are making him out to be a great SP so that we don't need to get another SP.

So everyone would be happy with Beachy at 4 and wood at 5? That is the rotation everyone wants to go with?

[cajunrevenge]

Jordany Valdespin non-tendered by the Mets. Worth a look imo, he can play SS,2B, and all 3 outfield positions.

[thethe]

They are making him out to be a great SP so that we don't need to get another SP.

He will be a great end of the rotation pitcher compared to the rest of baseball.

[skidlee]

Jordany Valdespin non-tendered by the Mets. Worth a look imo, he can play SS,2B, and all 3 outfield positions.

His attitude is an issue. He was pissed he got sent down last year.

Doubt the braves do that.

[yeezus]

They are making him out to be a great SP so that we don't need to get another SP.

Maybe the organization really believes in Teheran and Minor stepping up. Beachy could be a very good #4, it's not like we're relying on him as our horse.

[skidlee]

He will be a great end of the rotation pitcher compared to the rest of baseball.

The Nats just got Doug Fister for their back end. I doubt think Beachy is better then him.

[thethe]

The Nats just got Doug Fister for their back end. I doubt think Beachy is better then him.

He should be their 4th starter and they have two big time injury risks in their rotation with Stras/detwiler.

[skidlee]

He should be their 4th starter and they have two big time injury risks in their rotation with Stras/detwiler.

Straus is not bigger than Beachy. And They have depth in Roark and Jordan.

Wouldn't ours look a lot better with Minor, Medlen, Tehran, VET, Beachy and Wood/Hale as depth?

[Heyward]

They are making him out to be a great SP so that we don't need to get another SP.

So everyone would be happy with Beachy at 4 and wood at 5? That is the rotation everyone wants to go with?

WANT, no, but if we have to go with it, i wouldnt hate it.

[Heyward]

Straus is not bigger than Beachy. And They have depth in Roark and Jordan.

And we have no depth?

[yeezus]

And we have no depth?

I love how he considers them depth. Taylor Jordan? He's not better than Hale, Hale is probably better.

[skidlee]

Where did I say we have no depth?

[Heyward]

I love how he considers them depth. Taylor Jordan? He's not better than Hale, Hale is probably better.

Jordan is good, i'd take him over Hale but not by much.

[yeezus]

I don't think the Braves have to respond and potentially overpay. If a similar deal were there, it's an obvious move. It most likely wasn't there for them.

[skidlee]

Red Sox Non-Tender Andrew Bailey


He would be a guy I would take a risk on.

[Heyward]

Red Sox Non-Tender Andrew Bailey


He would be a guy I would take a risk on.

Agreed......