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Thread: C. Bethancourt to SD for RHP Kelly, and '14 International Signee R. Rodriguez (C)

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    Well it mainly is a rumor that spikes my interest due to the fact the Padres have Hedges AND Norris. They also really need a shortstop badly. They have been rumored to want Inciarte too. So it's a rumor with potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Basically, this thread is a Joel Sherman Twitter feed. Ugh, wait until something actually happens, instead of just of reacting to a one-source rumor.
    Jayson Stark was the first to report that the Padres were pushing hard for Bethancourt. So, I think it's safe to step down from the soap box now.

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    Padres close to acquiring him per Rosenthal

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    Source: #Padres close to acquiring Bethancourt from #Braves. Working through final details. @Joelsherman1 on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Source: #Padres close to acquiring Bethancourt from #Braves. Working through final details. @Joelsherman1 on this.

    Blah.. this is just rumor.. please let me know something when it is real.
    <sarcasm>

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Blah.. this is just rumor.. please let me know something when it is real.
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    that wont happen, this is a sherman,rosenthal,and buster twitter thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Basically, this thread is a Joel Sherman Twitter feed. Ugh, wait until something actually happens, instead of just of reacting to a one-source rumor.
    Well Rosenthal says it's almost a done deal also...
    So...

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    Shields plus $15M for CB! Make it happen!

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    Need 40-man space, so almost certain to be a low-minors prospect.

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    I predict a Zech Lemond or Justin Hancock type. A pitching prospect not on the 40 man roster who has decent enough stuff to pitch out of the pen if they can't be a starter.

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    What about Rymer Liriano? His star has faded significantly.

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    Don't get disappointed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Don't get disappointed
    Yeah, when an organization decides they'd rather roll with AJP and Flowers instead of continuing on with a player, you probably shouldn't expect much in a trade of that player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Yeah, when an organization decides they'd rather roll with AJP and Flowers instead of continuing on with a player, you probably shouldn't expect much in a trade of that player.
    I think CB/Maybin/jordan paroubeck
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    BJ/Kimbrel/Jup.. we will have to send some cash too..

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    My guess is a deal involving Michael Gettys, who was their No. 7 prospect before they added Guerra, Margot and Allen in the Kimbrel deal.

    Gettys is a R-R outfielder from Gainesville, who did a Heyward (passing up football to concentrate on BB in high school). Seems a good fit.

    Of course, if the Padres are willing to flip Guerra or Margot, well, you know ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    What about Rymer Liriano? His star has faded significantly.
    This makes quite a bit of sense. Both guys are toolsy players that haven't had any success at the MLB level in limited action.

    Does Liriano have any options left?

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    Hard to tell what happened with Bethancourt. I think it's more about attitude issues than on-field performance (although the two are linked). I just think the Braves don't like his approach and think he's unwilling to take instruction. Who knows what goes on?

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    Ryan Butler would be my guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Hard to tell what happened with Bethancourt. I think it's more about attitude issues than on-field performance (although the two are linked). I just think the Braves don't like his approach and think he's unwilling to take instruction. Who knows what goes on?
    I feel like a large part of his downfall has just been a major shift in how catchers are valued over the last few years. His best feature has always been his arm, but over the last several years teams have started to realize pitch calling and framing are far more important, and he's not particularly good at either. Add to that the fact that his bat hasn't really ever developed like we hoped, and you have someone who just isn't nearly as valuable as we expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawwr View Post
    I feel like a large part of his downfall has just been a major shift in how catchers are valued over the last few years. His best feature has always been his arm, but over the last several years teams have started to realize pitch calling and framing are far more important, and he's not particularly good at either. Add to that the fact that his bat hasn't really ever developed like we hoped, and you have someone who just isn't nearly as valuable as we expected.
    or maybe, just maybe less than 300 Abs in the majors is not enough time to evaluate a hitter... or maybe just maybe if Frediot would have played him more than 4, FOUR, that is right 4 times in back to back games last year, he might have improved more. I think Catching has to be one of the most demanding positions on the field. and if you are playing every three days, and on top of that, you are a rookie.. I bet you would find it hard to develop consistency.

    But his time with us is past.. wish him luck and just hope we can salvage something in a trade for him..

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