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Thread: C. Bethancourt to SD for RHP Kelly, and '14 International Signee R. Rodriguez (C)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Jenkins/Newcomb/Blair won't start in Atl next season.. one, no need to start their clock this season... two, they will benefit more from AAA next year... and three, Folty/ManBan/Perez/Weber need to define their roles and/or build value.. there is a great chance that 3 of those four I just mentioned to be with another organization next year.
    It's more likely that Folty and ManBan will be in the BP by 2017, and guys like Perez and Weber are nothing more than swingmen or AAAA guys used to be the 7th guy in the MLB rotation. Personally, I hope the organization doesn't waste too much time making the conversion to the BP for those guys. If they don't stick in the rotation this year, change their roles and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It's more likely that Folty and ManBan will be in the BP by 2017, and guys like Perez and Weber are nothing more than swingmen or AAAA guys used to be the 7th guy in the MLB rotation. Personally, I hope the organization doesn't waste too much time making the conversion to the BP for those guys. If they don't stick in the rotation this year, change their roles and move on.
    That is basically my point. Folty needs to start this year. if you got it, then we have a GOOD problem going into 2017.. if he flops around like last year.. then to the pen.. ManBan should be the same. I would be ok with a 6 man rotation to start the season. one if not both of Weber or Perez will either be traded or in AAA to start 2016.. the other might make the club and then traded at the deadline.. I don't know the specifics right now. .but I would imagine Perez/Weber are close to being out of options..and I can't imagine the Braves are wanting to waste roster spots on them much past this year.

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    I keep seeing that there are new posts in this thread and it's just talking about the back end of the rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    That is basically my point. Folty needs to start this year. if you got it, then we have a GOOD problem going into 2017.. if he flops around like last year.. then to the pen.. ManBan should be the same. I would be ok with a 6 man rotation to start the season. one if not both of Weber or Perez will either be traded or in AAA to start 2016.. the other might make the club and then traded at the deadline.. I don't know the specifics right now. .but I would imagine Perez/Weber are close to being out of options..and I can't imagine the Braves are wanting to waste roster spots on them much past this year.
    Agree. Folty has to declare himself as a starter or rp this year

    I think vet and or man ban or Perez at end. Ship them off at deadline and the bring up some of the aaa or aa guys.

    If you want to be good in 2017 you can't have 2 plus starters who have never thrown in mlb

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    Seems odd this is taking so long.

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    Yeah... Why is this taking so long? Either a larger deal or it's just nothing lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Seems odd this is taking so long.
    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Yeah... Why is this taking so long? Either a larger deal or it's just nothing lol
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    Just really hoping they get Aybar and we get anything useful.

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    Probably trying to expand it as a 3-way with AZ. At least I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Yeah... Why is this taking so long? Either a larger deal or it's just nothing lol
    Just stating the obvious, but the teams are all flying home from Nashville today. Could it be that there are just a few logistical reasons for a delay?

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    There might be something else at play. We saw the Cubs wait to sign Zobrist and trade Castro until both deals could happen almost simultaneously. Maybe the Cubs are now waiting on Heyward to sign so it can happen at the same time as a Soler trade. If that Soler trade is with Atlanta for Inciarte plus CB (or someone that could be packaged with CB in a trade with SD), we might be waiting until all those dominoes can fall (or don't fall) at once.

    Probably not, but I'm bored the last couple hours at work.

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    If it's Casey Kelly I don't get this. I fully understand the concerns with CB but I'm also annoyed with how he was handled last year. I don't think he's the future at C by any means but just handing him to another team without giving him a shot is not smart. Especially when catching is a huge need.

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    One positive on Casey Kelly is that he appears to have two minor league option years remaining. He seems more deserving of an MLB roster spot than McKirahan and Burawa.

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    Meh

    Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves
    #Braves acquire RHP Casey Kelly and C Ricardo Rodriguez from #Padres in exchange for C Christian Bethancourt.

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    That's really not a bad deal at all, guys. Lol

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    Looks like Rodriguez is only 17. Anything interesting with him as a prospect?

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    Supposedly the best catching prospect from the 2014 international market.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/inter...rdo-rodriguez/

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    2014 international signing. Below is from BA:

    The Padres have signed 16-year-old Venezuelan catcher Ricardo Rodriguez, the No. 21 international prospect for July 2.

    At 5-foot-10, 180 pounds, Rodriguez is a righthanded hitter who projects to stick behind the plate thanks to his solid catch-and-throw skills, a tick above-average arm strength and good field awareness. Among catchers who project to stick at the position (Miguel Flames of Venezuela is still fairly new to the position), Rodriguez was the best catcher on the market. He trained with Ciro Barrios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
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    #Braves acquire RHP Casey Kelly and C Ricardo Rodriguez from #Padres in exchange for C Christian Bethancourt.
    Just a meaningless trade all around. Hope CB can figure things out in San Diego though.

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    Rodriguez sounds a lot like Bethancourt when he was signed:

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/822137...ardo-rodriguez

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