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Thread: 7/5 GDT: Houston Astros (57-27) vs. Atlanta Braves (40-42); Dansby's Day Off Edition

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    Darn I was hoping to be treated to the broadcast braintrust discussing the value of SBs from the lead off spot.

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    Garcia is showing why LHed pitchers need a change bs RHed hitters.

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    Does statcast measure the speed of the runner to determine if the play is more difficult?

    I'm not sure Dansby makes a couple of these plays due to not having the arm strength

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    Garcia looking good. Get em a run

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Does statcast measure the speed of the runner to determine if the play is more difficult?

    I'm not sure Dansby makes a couple of these plays due to not having the arm strength
    I love camargo, but dansby makes both of those plays

    ETA... gotta remember camargo made the plays a little closer bc he knows he has a cannon. He waited to throw
    Last edited by msstate7; 07-05-2017 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Does statcast measure the speed of the runner to determine if the play is more difficult?

    I'm not sure Dansby makes a couple of these plays due to not having the arm strength
    I don't think so. The stats for infielders aren't as good as the ones for OFers specifically for reasons like that.

    At the very least I expect statcast to calculate how long it took the defender to get the ball to 1B, broken down by route to the grounder, transfer time and throw velocity.

    The speed of the runner would factor into what an "average" time is for each type of batted ball. Maybe? This is probably why we saw them rate OF plays first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I don't think so. The stats for infielders aren't as good as the ones for OFers specifically for reasons like that.

    At the very least I expect statcast to calculate how long it took the defender to get the ball to 1B, broken down by route to the grounder, transfer time and throw velocity.

    The speed of the runner would factor into what an "average" time is for each type of batted ball. Maybe? This is probably why we saw them rate OF plays first.
    Yeah... I don't see why they can't do it (easy for me to say)... but seems like they should if they want to stay consistent with whether the average fielder makes the play, etc.

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    The offense has shut down for the break already. It's been pretty awful the last week or so

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    Infield metrics will be more harder.

    For example, a SS diving to stop a ball from going through doesn't prevent a hit, but it does prevent the runner from 2nd from scoring. So you have to give him cursor for it, but if you want to keep the metric context neutral you have to give him credit for every ball he dives and stops, even if it doesn't prevent a base runner from advancing.

    So then you end up with guys diving to stop everything to increase their metric but not doing any real good.

    The throw to 1B makes it an order of magnitude more difficult to create a metric.

    Should be trivial to judge range, transfer time, and throw velo tho. That will at least allow you to compare a SS to another SS, but not the value of that SS defense to the defense of an OFer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The offense has shut down for the break already. It's been pretty awful the last week or so
    Freeman moved to 3b so the offense would remain amazeballs. This isn't how it was supposed to happen when folks drooled at the lineup with 3 first baseman in it.

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    Musgrove putting up better AB than any brave position player

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    Garcia has done his job. The offense can't hit a guy with an era now at 5.68.

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    Stop hanging your fugging slider Garcia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Garcia has done his job. The offense can't hit a guy with an era now at 5.68.
    Doing his job until giving up three two out runs in the fifth. Seems to be a pattern with this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMA76 View Post
    Doing his job until giving up three two out runs in the fifth. Seems to be a pattern with this guy.
    4 runs thru 5 vs the astros is pretty respectable to me for our starting staff. 0 runs vs a guy just called up from AAA isn't respectable at all

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    Phillips, Kemp, and Adams need a bench seat tomorrow

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    The fuk? Jamie? Snit just giving up

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