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Thread: The Trump Presidency

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    Hysterical - Left falls over itself over this obvious lie to sell books and now they are reverting to things they've been saying for 3 years. You have nothing left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Hysterical - Left falls over itself over this obvious lie to sell books and now they are reverting to things they've been saying for 3 years. You have nothing left.
    Last edited by goldfly; 06-25-2019 at 10:04 PM.
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    I am thankful, at least so far, that Trump hasn't started even more wars unlike his predecessor

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    This is such a hysterical stretch that only the left could make it.

    I can't believe you actually think the not my type comment means she isn't his type to rape.

    You guys have absolutely lost your minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I am thankful, at least so far, that Trump hasn't started even more wars unlike his predecessor
    which war did his predecessor start
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    seems like a reasonable point here


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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    which war did his predecessor start
    I don't understand why you play coy with this when you know Obama bombed the **** out of Libya, Yemen, Syria, among others

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I don't understand why you play coy with this when you know Obama bombed the **** out of Libya, Yemen, Syria, among others
    Ok, but if the standard is “bombed the **** out of,” aren’t we still doing that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Ok, but if the standard is “bombed the **** out of,” aren’t we still doing that?
    I was careful with my phrasing on my original point

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    seems like a reasonable point here

    It’s actually kinda obtuse. “Manufactured crisis” refers precisely to taking the kind of draconian measures that we’re seeing (i.e. zero tolerance, family separation) in response to levels of illegal immigration that are well below those of the recent past, and justifying doing so because of “crisis.” So, missing the point a bit, I’d say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It’s actually kinda obtuse. “Manufactured crisis” refers precisely to taking the kind of draconian measures that we’re seeing (i.e. zero tolerance, family separation) in response to levels of illegal immigration that are well below those of the recent past, and justifying doing so because of “crisis.” So, missing the point a bit, I’d say.
    The zero tolerance and family separation policies were ended last year.

    'Fake crisis' has been alive and well in 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I was careful with my phrasing on my original point
    Yes, so you can give him credit for not starting any new wars (um, yet) while slipping around escalating military operations in several different places. Seems like a bit of a distinction without a difference.

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    As has been noted the type of migrants has changed from the past so the point of levels of immigration is not relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Yes, so you can give him credit for not starting any new wars (um, yet) while slipping around escalating military operations in several different places. Seems like a bit of a distinction without a difference.
    Wars, like entitlements, are seemingly impossible to end.

    Bush ran on ending wars... he started more that we are still in.

    Obama ran on ending war... he started more that we are still in.

    Trump ran on ending war... he has yet to start more, despite the left and right completely slamming him for not doing so.

    Let's hope he holds strong. I have my doubts

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The zero tolerance and family separation policies were ended last year.

    'Fake crisis' has been alive and well in 2019
    Yeah, ok. Still not sure what the beef is. Seems a fairly common affliction of conservative folks who aren’t full-on MAGA—to cast a wide net of blame that somehow doesn’t primarily include the people actually responsible for the policy. Like, they recognize that Trump is a ****heel but they can’t help reflexively blaming their strawman villains for how this ****heel came to be calling the shots, and doing precisely the things that his base wants him to do.

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    What policy?

    The one that was ended a year ago? Or a different one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    What policy?

    The one that was ended a year ago? Or a different one?
    Whose policy was it?

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    What effects did it have? Are those effects currently mitigated?

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    Which policy are you referring to? The one that was going on during the last administration and ended a year ago? Or a different one?

    YOu made a vague reference to a seemingly current policy two posts ago so just want to make sure we're talking the same language

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