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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Research, grasshoppers.

    Here’s a friendly link: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kevin-hassett
    Hawk just Voxed libs.

    Bravo.

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    good lord, the 4th paragraph:

    The idea that cutting deductions will make the plan better for the middle class is pure nonsense. There just aren’t enough deductions in the tax code to make Trump’s plan anything other than a giveaway to the wealthy.
    .................

    Research ain't wurf spit if you don't read past the headline.
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    You have to read the whole article ... not just stop when you find a part you like.

    Imma teach you yet.

    5th paragraph:

    But the argument that Trump’s plan is actually a cut for middle-class people does have some research behind it — even if the idea is still far outside the mainstream of economics. The chief proponent of the idea that cutting corporate taxes helps the middle class is economist Kevin Hassett, whom Trump has picked as chair of the Council of Economic Advisers.
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    the rest I interpreted as trickle down
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    Hassett’s contentions, in other words, are well outside the mainstream of economics. But they rebut the two largest arguments against Trump’s tax plan: the overwhelming cost of the package, and the fact that it offers little to nothing for middle-class families and a lot to the very rich. Hassett’s research enables the White House to insist that the secret to unleashing middle-class wage growth is offering corporations massive tax cuts — and that they can do it in a way that raises revenue by stimulating economic growth.
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    Amusing that you think you can increase wages at gunpoint. That in fact never works.

    You had 8 years to institute liberal economic policies and we had the weakest post recession growth in our countries history. It failed. end of story.
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    first there had to be a recession and financial meltdown due to .... tax cuts - maybe ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    the rest I interpreted as trickle down
    ......................

    Hassett’s contentions, in other words, are well outside the mainstream of economics. But they rebut the two largest arguments against Trump’s tax plan: the overwhelming cost of the package, and the fact that it offers little to nothing for middle-class families and a lot to the very rich. Hassett’s research enables the White House to insist that the secret to unleashing middle-class wage growth is offering corporations massive tax cuts — and that they can do it in a way that raises revenue by stimulating economic growth.
    .......

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    Pop quiz: why does Hassett believe offering corporations tax cuts helps the middle class?

    Answer that, and then explain to me how that concept made you think of trickle down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    first there had to be a recession and financial meltdown due to .... tax cuts - maybe ?
    Wow if that is the reason you think the recession happened.

    If you actually believe that then you know less about the economy than I even thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    first there had to be a recession and financial meltdown due to .... tax cuts - maybe ?
    The recession and financial meltdown was not a result of ... tax cuts.

    Come on.

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    oh.

    Clintons again
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    Surprised no one here wants to discuss episode 7 of Ken Burns Viet Nam.
    The ending left me especially queasy.
    Seemed relevant --- timely
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    oh.

    Clintons again
    Love this tactic. When its clear you have no clue you just say something random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    none of trump's policies help the middle class. "his" (lol) healthcare bill doesn't. his tax cuts for the rich won't. stripping away ability for class actions lawsuits. these are all nods to the already very wealthy.
    yeah.................

    methinks you don't really understand what helps people

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    I want to hear how tax cuts killed Lehman.

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    lol at tax cuts causing the recession.

    holy ****, people

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    lol at tax cuts causing the recession.

    holy ****, people
    Its that type of thinking that leads to the worst recovery in American history.
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    perhaps you should go to trump university. you could learn a lot and get a great job. why not go? trump is great isn't he? so his uni must be, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    perhaps you should go to trump university. you could learn a lot and get a great job. why not go? trump is great isn't he? so his uni must be, too!
    Adopting 57's tactics.

    Again - You just don't know about economic matters. I'm sure you have your specialty.
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    and now they're trying to take away the fed deduction for state and local taxes.
    really helping middle class america!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Its that type of thinking that leads to the worst recovery in American history.
    recover from what ?
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