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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You have to wonder what could have been done to improve the pen with 23 million and just let camargo play third while Riley perculated.
    Take a look at how all the FA BP arms are doing so far and you’ll have your answer.

    Hint: not great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Take a look at how all the FA BP arms are doing so far and you’ll have your answer.

    Hint: not great
    Fair point and I love donaldson. Really worried about that calf.

    Riley seems like he could be a 3 WAR player now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Take a look at how all the FA BP arms are doing so far and you’ll have your answer.

    Hint: not great
    Yeah...it's fairly ugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Take a look at how all the FA BP arms are doing so far and you’ll have your answer.

    Hint: not great
    I was about to post this. 23 million in garabage over more years too. As someone who wanted the pen addressed. It seems like we dodged a bullet not addressing it. Still early though Hoping our draft day will also net us a super good closer that can come in immediately and close some games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Fair point and I love donaldson. Really worried about that calf.

    Riley seems like he could be a 3 WAR player now.
    Health was the risk AA took. Good news is JDs health can only affect 1 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I was about to post this. 23 million in garabage over more years too. As someone who wanted the pen addressed. It seems like we dodged a bullet not addressing it. Still early though Hoping our draft day will also net us a super good closer that can come in immediately and close some games.
    I didn’t want them to add any arms of any significance unless it was a Paxton level SP at good value.

    I wanted Grandal and Brantley or Cutch, and 1-2 value adds to the BP and bench.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    I love Camargo to a degree. But I must be the only one thinking a regular utility role is where he belongs. That said, a lot of us wanted to do things differently.
    I've always believed that Camargo's best role would be a 350 - 400 AB guy, but last year's performance made me question my initial assessment. I was skeptical of the Donaldson signing and I will gladly admit it looks like my skepticism was misplaced (provided his health holds up), but I could have lived with Camargo for another year provided they added another bullpen arm and an upgrade at cOF. Not a rip on Markakis there, but we need to look at which way the heavier performance will tilt: Donaldson/Markakis or Camargo/cOF upgrade. I guess we'll know in November after we've won the World Series.

    Nice to see Riley's early season performance. The rosiest part to me is the drop in K%. He's a strong guy and if his contact rate is solid, he'll hit his share of dingers. Of course, in the same vein as Demeritte, Riley is the kind of player who can seemingly strike out 11 times in 10 straight PAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I've always believed that Camargo's best role would be a 350 - 400 AB guy, but last year's performance made me question my initial assessment. I was skeptical of the Donaldson signing and I will gladly admit it looks like my skepticism was misplaced (provided his health holds up), but I could have lived with Camargo for another year provided they added another bullpen arm and an upgrade at cOF. Not a rip on Markakis there, but we need to look at which way the heavier performance will tilt: Donaldson/Markakis or Camargo/cOF upgrade. I guess we'll know in November after we've won the World Series.

    Nice to see Riley's early season performance. The rosiest part to me is the drop in K%. He's a strong guy and if his contact rate is solid, he'll hit his share of dingers. Of course, in the same vein as Demeritte, Riley is the kind of player who can seemingly strike out 11 times in 10 straight PAs.
    He is also a notorious slow starter. His initial 100PAs at a new level usually are WAY below career norms and where he levels off at.
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    Watched the Riley homer on a bigger screen and that ball landed over the Berm and hit that first white bus. You can see the guy reach down under the bus to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You have to wonder what could have been done to improve the pen with 23 million and just let camargo play third while Riley perculated.
    I don’t wonder that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Watched the Riley homer on a bigger screen and that ball landed over the Berm and hit that first white bus. You can see the guy reach down under the bus to get it.
    That's a long way

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    Nolan Kingham working on a gem in Florida. 7 IP. 1 H. 0 BB. 4 K, but only 66 pitches through 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I don’t wonder that.
    Why? Spending big money on relievers is a fool’s errand.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Kingham finishes off his strong performance throwing a CG (!!!!!!) on 85 pitches (64 strikes). No BB and 5K. 14 GO/3 FO. Impressive third start after two rocky ones since his promotion from Rome.

    EDIT: Game stopped after 8 1/3 innings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Why? Spending big money on relievers is a fool’s errand.
    Ottavino woild have been noce to have

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ottavino woild have been noce to have
    I think he was always heading to the Yankees.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I think he was always heading to the Yankees.
    Money talks but you may be right. I would have taken Britton also.

    I honestly dont think we needed more than one high leverage arm but that giy would have set the rest of the pen in more comfortable situations.

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    Greg Holland looks like a bargain at 3.5 million

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