Pache hype train

[Tapate50]

Leaving the station !

[Tapate50]

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets...ristian-pache/

[thethe]

Braves will be shopping Ender within the calendar year

[bravesfanMatt]

Braves will be shopping Ender within the calendar year

Why?

[Russ2dollas]

Braves will be shopping Ender within the calendar year

Isn’t Pache 20? Has even been past high a?

People need to slow down. Not everyone is acuna. If aa was in charge acuna would not be acuna bc he’s done a full year in aa.

Pache is two years out. No help to the braves to rush guys and supply the big market teams south 27 yo free agents

[thethe]

Isn’t Pache 20? Has even been past high a?

People need to slow down. Not everyone is acuna. If aa was in charge acuna would not be acuna bc he’s done a full year in aa.

Pache is two years out. No help to the braves to rush guys and supply the big market teams south 27 yo free agents

He's 19 actually.

But the braves like many other teams will be buying out arby and multiple fa years with their young guys.

[GeorgiaGirl]

I think some are going to be very disappointed at how slow AA goes compared to how the Braves traditionally push prospects. I expect this season to be Pache's breakout year but unlikely at the extent of Acuna's, and with how AA keeps saying "I wouldn't have pushed these prospects as fast as the previous regimen", that could very well mean A+ for him for most to the entire season and just a cup of AA ball in the end...at best half the season in A+ and half in AA.

At best I'd put his ETA at mid 2019 to September 2019.

There's not much he can do Acuna wise as the "rushing" has been done and yet he killed it in AA and above (if he continues destroying the baseball we're going to see him either in Chicago or when the Braves come back home for a homestand on April 16th) but his fingerprints are liable to be completely different on the other prospects.

[Skeeter31]

He's 19 actually.

But the braves like many other teams will be buying out arby and multiple fa years with their young guys.

It’s not about the financial side of things. It’s about developing him properly. There is no sense to rush a 19 year old to the MLB level when he hasn’t played above A ball.

[thethe]

Braves rushed swanson. Albies/Acuna dictated their path. We will see if Pache does the same.

[thethe]

It’s not about the financial side of things. It’s about developing him properly. There is no sense to rush a 19 year old to the MLB level when he hasn’t played above A ball.

The player will follow his own developmental path. There is no one size fits all model.

[Prikichi]

Braves rushed swanson. Albies/Acuna dictated their path. We will see if Pache does the same.

No they didn't. Stop making excuses, it's up to him to demonstrate whether he's got what it takes to be a big leaguer.

[thethe]

No they didn't. Stop making excuses, it's up to him to demonstrate whether he's got what it takes to be a big leaguer.

Swanson being rushed and not being good enough to be a major leaguer can exist at the same time.

[Prikichi]

Swanson being rushed and not being good enough to be a major leaguer can exist at the same time.

The consensus among the experts was rookie of the year for dansby if I'm not mistaken

[Horsehide Harry]

Swanson being rushed and not being good enough to be a major leaguer can exist at the same time.

There's was a pretty vocal minority on here screaming why? Why? WHY? on Swanson at the time.

[thewupk]

Swanson was rushed. Those making predictions for ROY were influenced by his prospect ranking and his high BABIP at the end of 2016 which isn't all that unfounded. But it was clear through the first couple of months of him getting exposed by sliders that he just wasn't ready.

[Enscheff]

Braves will be shopping Ender within the calendar year

Enscheff will be mocking tehteh for this comment within the calaendar year.

However, Pache provides the bulk of his value with defense, so if he pans out he is a definite extension candidate.

[Southcack77]

Braves will be shopping Ender within the calendar year

Why not just let him progress normally from A ball rather than try and rush him by trading a good player on a good contract?

As things stands, not much upside really in bringing him up any time soon unless Inciarte really starts falling off and Pache starts really hitting.

---I see this was not a unique position here. I could have just plus one'd somebody.

[thethe]

Why not just let him progress normally from A ball rather than try and rush him by trading a good player on a good contract?

As things stands, not much upside really in bringing him up any time soon unless Inciarte really starts falling off and Pache starts really hitting.

It's just shopping. They don't have to trade him but if Pache moves fast and you have Acuna there then you have flexibility in spending big on another corner OF

[clvclv]

There's was a pretty vocal minority on here screaming why? Why? WHY? on Swanson at the time.

Which ought to tell us all all we need to know about being posters on a message board, and taking ourselves a little too seriously - apparently there aren't many people associated with the team looking here for answers.

That said, there's little doubt that you guys who said so were right about that. I think the reasoning behind Dansby's promotion wasn't as much about whether he was ready to play as it was that the rebuild (at that point with the management that was in place) was ready for him. The young arms, Albies, and Acuna all still needed a good bit of time to develop before being thrown into the fire in any form - even with aggressive promotions at that point.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to defend it (or to explain that they were right for doing so) - but the brass was dealing with a spoiled fanbase while trying to generate massive interest while opening a new park with a team that simply wasn't ready to contend. Everyone already knew Freddie and Julio, and as much as most fans love them, they just weren't going out to the park to see them - they could only be "headliners" to a point. As exciting as Folty is at times fans knew him too, and they were already getting frustrated that his flashes were so few and far between.

They needed another poster boy to show fans that all this exciting young talent was coming, and while he may not have been quite ready, Swanson was the most prepared for the situation - AND he was the one who was least likely to be ruined in the long run by being rushed. Dansby had been through and dealt with all the hype that the others hadn't - #1 pick in the draft, All-American, leader of a big-time college program that's always in the spotlight that had faced big-time competition in the SEC, won a National Championship, College World Series Most Outstanding Player, had shown that he could perform in big games in the CWS - and almost as importantly he'd have a local following regardless of how he performed since he was a hometown kid. He had (and still has) the makeup that makes you confident that struggling at this level isn't going to crush him.

In a perfect world, I don't think many of us would have promoted him when they did based on his performance. Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world, and while we'd all love to have it back, when looking at the circumstances surrounding his promotion I at least understand why they did it.

[50PoundHead]

Isn’t Pache 20? Has even been past high a?

People need to slow down. Not everyone is acuna. If aa was in charge acuna would not be acuna bc he’s done a full year in aa.

Pache is two years out. No help to the braves to rush guys and supply the big market teams south 27 yo free agents

He hasn't been above Low A, much less High A. Braves should start him in Florida this year and if all goes well, he might spend part of the season in Mississippi. Florida State League is not particularly kind to power hitters, so I hope Pache doesn't get impatient with the changes in his swing mechanics if they don't translate into a truckload of dingers. With Inciarte in the fold, there's no reason to rush Pache.