Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

[57Brave]

It is illegal for foreigners to donate to American elections. The meeting happened just as Trump had secured the Republican nomination for president, and he was considered a longshot to win. Manafort was the campaign chairman at the time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

[57Brave]

The assaults on the vast back-end election apparatus — voter-registration operations, state and local election databases, e-poll books and other equipment — have received far less attention than other aspects of the Russian interference, such as the hacking of Democratic emails and spreading of false or damaging information about Mrs. Clinton. Yet the hacking of electoral systems was more extensive than previously disclosed, The New York Times found.

Details of the breach did not emerge until June, in a classified National Security Agency report leaked to The Intercept, a national security news site. That report found that hackers from Russia’s military intelligence agency, the G.R.U., had penetrated the company’s computer systems as early as August 2016, then sent “spear-phishing” emails from a fake VR Systems account to 122 state and local election jurisdictions. The emails sought to trick election officials into downloading malicious software to take over their computers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/u...n-hacking.html

[57Brave]

Evan McMullin‏Verified account @Evan_McMullin 23h23 hours ago
Replying to @Evan_McMullin

After several months of weekly or daily bombshell Russia revelations, we've started to grow desensitized to this outrageous betrayal.
173 replies 1,727 retweets 5,229 likes

[57Brave]

weren't some here McMullen supporters during '16 election ?


Evan McMullin‏Verified account @Evan_McMullin Sep 1

Especially after this week's Russia news, it should be politically unacceptable for Trump to remain in office, regardless of the legal case.

[sturg33]

Evan McMullin‏Verified account @Evan_McMullin 23h23 hours ago
Replying to @Evan_McMullin

After several months of weekly or daily bombshell Russia revelations, we've started to grow desensitized to this outrageous betrayal.
173 replies 1,727 retweets 5,229 likes

I am still unclear on why we should care about Russia but not care about things like selling weapons to Al queda

[57Brave]

Why dont you read up on it and let everyone know.
No reason to be unclear

[sturg33]

I have read... and I don't understand why Russia is so bad, and funding terrorists is fine

[57Brave]

I don't understand why Russia is bad and the Dodgers got Yu Darvich
Why the Angels traded for JUpton

Why the Bulls didn't get more for Jimmy Butler
don't get me started on Kyle Shanahan

Life is a mystery Grasshopper

[sturg33]

Perhaps you can help me undertsand why 57brave has a bigger problem with Russia than it does arming terrorists.

Don't need to know about anybody else. Just tell me why you, specifically, care so much more about it

[57Brave]

who is Al queda ?

[sturg33]

who is Al queda ?

Rather than answering my very genuine and direct question, you want to focus on an auto-correct?

Is that to mean you don't have an answer?

[57Brave]

you asked a stupid question that has nothing to do with the topic

why is Russia more important than the rusted decaying pipes in our Rust Belt Cities ?
Because this conversation centers on Russian Collusion.
Why is Russia more important than say --- who Taylor Swift voted for

If you feel the need to discuss some organization of 100 people on the other side of the globe for lord sakes start a conversation and say what you mean.
Rather than ask some stupid hypothetical college dorm question

sheeesh

[sturg33]

So you don't have an answer to my question. Understood.

There's no need to start a new thread because my question pertains to this topic (Russia). You guys seem very concerned. I genuinely don't understand why.

So I'm try to put it into context. You said up thread that this was a "betrayal". I don't understand why Russia is more of a betrayel than selling arms to terrorists... but apparently it is. Can you tell me why?

[57Brave]

"so you think peaches are better than bananas with chocolate ice cream .
Can you tell me why ?

Of course you can't
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Are your concerns over Trumps dealings with the Saudi's ?
Otherwise I have no idea what specific "selling arms to terrorists" you would be talking about

Of course the Russian collusion in the 2016 election, up and down the ballot, was a betrayal by the Trump campaign --- if you read the reports you would find at the heart is the voter data that was used to target specific voters with their "message."
where did those names come from and why were they given ?

Yes, we have been funding terrorists for generations - doesn't make it right nor should we turn a blind eye.
Not sure where the illegality is there though. Immoral - yes, illegal not so sure

Like I said, this is the first time our voting process has been corrupted to this scale in our history.
Before you start, I said "this scale"
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Now, maybe you can explain to me how the Timberwolves got Jimmy Butler so cheap instead of Kyrie Irving (because you know they both play basketball and like current event all basketball players are interchangeable )
After that why FSU's special teams have been such a nightmare for over a generation

For one that finds it difficult to hold 2 opposing thoughts simultaneously remarkably
You apparently have answers.
Do tell

[sturg33]

Just seems like our priorities are mis-aligned... you'll never convince me it's nothing more than partisan politics

[57Brave]

Under federal law and Federal Election Commission regulations, both foreign nationals and foreign governments are prohibited from making contributions or spending money to influence a federal, state or local election in the United States. The ban includes independent expenditures made in connection with an election.

Those banned from such spending include foreign citizens, foreign governments, foreign political parties, foreign corporations, foreign associations and foreign partnerships, according to the FEC. (Permanent residents who hold green cards, however, are not considered foreign nationals.) Violators face civil penalties, as well as criminal prosecution if they are found to have knowingly broken the law.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.9a65ecbcb688

[57Brave]

Bob Cesca‏Verified account @bobcesca_go

Bob Cesca Retweeted Tomi Lahren

Respect our laws? Right. How many Dreamers obstructed justice while conspiring with a foreign government to manipulate the 2016 election?


Bob Cesca -- Kutztown, Pa

[goldfly]

i love the "i'll overlook this cause something that has absolutely no relevance at all to it is happening too" stitch

that the so called freedom lover plays every single time

[goldfly]

i'm sure the $100k+ in ads from russian fake accounts on Facebook is really nothing at all

[cajunrevenge]

Is manipulating foreign elections wrong or is it only when it happens to us? How many foreign elections do you think Hillary has manipulated? She is on tape saying they should have manipulated the Palestinian elections to make sure the right guy won.


When we extradite our own government officials to the countries that they illegally manipulated their elections I will start caring about what Russia did. Fact is Russia has tries to influence our elections for the past 75 years. We do it all over the world. None of you would care if Putin did the same things to help Hillary.