- STARTS TODAY AT 7PM - 2016 June Amateur Draft Discussion

[cajunrevenge]

Rutherfords favorite team is the Yankees. I wouldnt take that little **** with the 1000th pick.

[KB21]

Hmmm. Could this be an interesting prelude?

https://twitter.com/SoCalSteve9/stat...37028324179969

[Hudson2]

That's pretty cool. What's Moniaks stats look like so far? Any power?

[KB21]

That's pretty cool. What's Moniaks stats look like so far? Any power?

From what I've read, everything on him is a plus tool right now except power, and many believe that his power will develop as his frame fills out.

[50PoundHead]

That's pretty cool. What's Moniaks stats look like so far? Any power?

Don't have his stats at my fingertips, but he has supposedly passed Rutherford as the best high school bat in the draft. Some wonder about how his power would project, but the latest scouting reports I've read are optimistic.

[Hudson2]

Would he be worthy of a 3 pick?

[smootness]

It's actually possible if you so call "manipulate" the draft (more of the draft money).
See, the Braves have 3 picks in the top 44- the #3, the #40, and the #44- and possibly more if we end up trading for CBA picks.
The slot money assigned the to the three picks above are: #3- $6.51 million, #40- $1.61 million, and #44- $1.45 million. That totals to around $9.57 million for the first three picks which could increase with more traded CBA picks as stated above. So now, we have lets say $9.6 million for the first three picks. Moniak is predicted to go top 5-8, and Rutherford is predicted to go similar but maybe a bit lower due to age, so let's say at pick 10. Pick 3 for Moniak would be a bit high, but on the other hand, Rutherford at #40 would be a lot low. The slot money for the #6 is $4 million, and the slot for pick 10 is $ 3.9 million. Now, we would have to start talking to the players themselves and agents and agreeing with money. We can tell the players that the Braves intend on drafting Moniak UNDERSLOT of the #3 pick value (so roughly 4.5 million which is still more than $4 million) and then Rutherford at 40 OVERSLOT than the #40 value (so at around $4.5 million which is also more than the #10 pick slot). We WOULD have to talk to Rutherford and get him to tell teams that he will either want more than $4 million to sign or that he is going to college so that other teams won't sign him. This, however, happens a lot in drafts and most recently in memory- Daz Cameron with the Astros.
So if the plan works, with the first two picks, we would end up with Mickey Moniak AND Blake Rutherford for $9 million and we didn't go over by THAT much. If we are able to trade for CBA picks, it'll help a lot with the financial part because getting more CBA picks doesn't just help us get more players, but more money to give out to the draftees.

Does that understand? sorry for the length of the reply.

The problem is, none of this mentions teams like the Reds and Padres who can swoop in and steal a guy we're planning on falling all the way to 40. There's no way I can see us getting those 2.

[50PoundHead]

Would he be worthy of a 3 pick?

Good question. Top 10 on all the lists I trust. Currently #5 on BA's Top 200. UCLA commit, so he'd probably be at slot or maybe even a little above.

[Oklahomabrave]

Hmmm. Could this be an interesting prelude?

https://twitter.com/SoCalSteve9/stat...37028324179969

I would be very happy with Moniak.

[KB21]

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I see that Keith Law has Corey Ray as his #1 overall prospect on his top 100 Big Board. He says that at worse, Ray is a solid everyday left fielder with the upside of Ray Lankford. He then says Ray playing CF is a "pipe dream", but he could develop into a capable left fielder.

For those of you who are too young to have seen Ray Lankford, for his career he was a .272/.365/.477 hitter with 238 home runs and 258 stolen bases in his career. The thing is, if Corey Ray is similar to Ray Lankford, then playing CF shouldn't be a pipe dream.

I'm just not sure you take a player with the 3rd pick who profiles as a left fielder. I can understand the idea behind getting a safe prospect that will move through the system quickly, and I also understand that there is likely some risk with a guy like Corey Ray, who is very athletic but overall raw from a baseball skills standpoint.


Ray Lankford running over Darren Daulton.

[Hudson2]

Please no to Ray.

[zbhargrove]

He better be the next Gregory Alan Maddux or Thomas Michael Glavine living in that range.

Most all scouting reports say he always sits at 90-94 but can touch 96... His devastating breaking ball is what makes him so good.

[Russ2dollas]

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I see that Keith Law has Corey Ray as his #1 overall prospect on his top 100 Big Board. He says that at worse, Ray is a solid everyday left fielder with the upside of Ray Lankford. He then says Ray playing CF is a "pipe dream", but he could develop into a capable left fielder

For those of you who are too young to have seen Ray Lankford, for his career he was a .272/.365/.477 hitter with 238 home runs and 258 stolen bases in his career. The thing is, if Corey Ray is similar to Ray Lankford, then playing CF shouldn't be a pipe dream.

I'm just not sure you take a player with the 3rd pick who profiles as a left fielder. I can understand the idea behind getting a safe prospect that will move through the system quickly, and I also understand that there is likely some risk with a guy like Corey Ray, who is very athletic but overall raw from a baseball skills standpoint.


Ray Lankford running over Darren Daulton.

That's the thinking that allowed mets to land confronto. We need a bat

[KB21]

That's the thinking that allowed mets to land confronto. We need a bat

That's a good point. In comparing the two players, Ray presents more defensive value than Conforto did coming out of Oregon State. I liked Conforto's bat more coming out though. I remember watching Conforto in the 2013 CWS and being very impressed with him at the plate. His teammate, Dylan Davis, is who I blame for me getting diagnosed with hypertension after the 1st Mississippi State/Oregon State game in the CWS that year.

[VOLracious]

Hmmm. Could this be an interesting prelude?

https://twitter.com/SoCalSteve9/stat...37028324179969

I've heard Maitan compared to Chipper but damn if that kid doesn't look like an 18 yo Chipper in the cage. Not as big and not the same power at the same age but the look is there.

[Enscheff]

I've heard Maitan compared to Chipper but damn if that kid doesn't look like an 18 yo Chipper in the cage. Not as big and not the same power at the same age but the look is there.

I was prepared to disagree, but then I went back and looked at video of Chipper in HS. I was shocked to see how skinny Chipper was!

[nsacpi]

I've heard Maitan compared to Chipper but damn if that kid doesn't look like an 18 yo Chipper in the cage. Not as big and not the same power at the same age but the look is there.

Isn't Maitan 16?

[Enscheff]

Isn't Maitan 16?

Yes, but he looks 18. He is very advanced.

[VOLracious]

I was prepared to disagree, but then I went back and looked at video of Chipper in HS. I was shocked to see how skinny Chipper was!

Yeah Chipper was somewhat slender when drafted. I think he bagan to fill out after the knee injury. He took his rehab seriously.

[smootness]

Good question. Top 10 on all the lists I trust. Currently #5 on BA's Top 200. UCLA commit, so he'd probably be at slot or maybe even a little above.

Just curious, but why do you think his commitment to UCLA makes him more likely to sign at slot or higher?