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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    I didn't mention anything specifically in this thread about Cox in the playoffs. That must've been somebody else.
    Can't think of anyone who believes that the '91 Twins and '92 Blue Jays were better teams than the Braves. The '93 Braves were better than the 2 previous rosters (Maddux, Crime Dog). The '96 Yankees didn't exactly outclass either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Can't think of anyone who believes that the '91 Twins and '92 Blue Jays were better teams than the Braves. The '93 Braves were better than the 2 previous rosters (Maddux, Crime Dog). The '96 Yankees didn't exactly outclass either.
    You’ve never met anyone who thought the 92 and 93 world champions were better than the Braves?

    Strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    You’ve never met anyone who thought the 92 and 93 world champions were better than the Braves?

    Strange.
    That’s a quote from Knucksie.

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    Eric Gregg failed in '97.

    RIP (rest in punishment)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Can't think of anyone who believes that the '91 Twins and '92 Blue Jays were better teams than the Braves. The '93 Braves were better than the 2 previous rosters (Maddux, Crime Dog). The '96 Yankees didn't exactly outclass either.
    Yeah, so? That was about the rosters, not decisions that Cox made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    You’ve never met anyone who thought the 92 and 93 world champions were better than the Braves?

    Strange.
    The weakness on the '92 Braves team was closer. That's why they lost. I never said that the '93 Braves were better than the WS champions. Just that they were better than the 2 previous Braves trams from '91, '92.

    If you're going to call me out, don't quote me out of context. This board already has enough of that already. Of course baby Braves fans (of which there are many) are going to claim that they got beat by better teams to justify losing. Either of those first 2 were very winnable.

    Want to know what was brought to my attention during early 90's? "Buffalo Bills of baseball." This to somebody who lives there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    The weakness on the '92 Braves team was closer. That's why they lost. I never said that the '93 Braves were better than the WS champions. Just that they were better than the 2 previous Braves trams from '91, '92.

    If you're going to call me out, don't quote me out of context. This board already has enough of that already. Of course baby Braves fans (of which there are many) are going to claim that they got beat by better teams to justify losing. Either of those first 2 were very winnable.

    Want to know what was brought to my attention during early 90's? "Buffalo Bills of baseball." This to somebody who lives there.
    To be honest, I didn’t quote you at all.

    And I didn’t take that post out of context because I quoted it in its entirety.

    I was reacting to whomever said they’d never met anyone who thought the Braves were worse than the Blue Jays.

    IMO, the Blue Jays were the better team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Want to know what was brought to my attention during early 90's? "Buffalo Bills of baseball." This to somebody who lives there.
    No wonder you mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    To be honest, I didn’t quote you at all.

    And I didn’t take that post out of context because I quoted it in its entirety.

    I was reacting to whomever said they’d never met anyone who thought the Braves were worse than the Blue Jays.

    IMO, the Blue Jays were the better team.
    Actually, you did quote him because that was his quote.

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    I quoted zitothebrave as far as I know.

    Nonetheless, I think the Blue Jays were the better team.

    It seems like some people said mean things to Knucksie awhile back. I don’t condone that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    No wonder you mad.
    Not mad at all. Besides, '95 put a stop to that once and for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I quoted zitothebrave as far as I know.

    Nonetheless, I think the Blue Jays were the better team.

    It seems like some people said mean things to Knucksie awhile back. I don’t condone that.
    Go back a page.

    My last 3 posts have now pointed out that it was Knucksie’s quote. I don’t know how to make it any clearer to you. You’re not terribly important to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Go back a page.

    My last 3 posts have now pointed out that it was Knucksie’s quote. I don’t know how to make it any clearer to you. You’re not terribly important to me.
    The arrows next to the quotes make it even easier! : D

    Double thanks, btw. Only expected this to be 1 or 2 post banter with Zeets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    You’re not terribly important to me.
    that’s disconcerting.

    Perhaps we’ve gotten off in the wrong foot.

    I did in fact understand your helpful comment the first time.

    However, after your post Knucksie appeared offended that I’d quoted his post out of context.

    I was attempting to clear up that I had no such intent because to the best of my knowledge at the time I was responding to zitothebrave.

    In fact, I never read knucksie’s full post and am not sure how a portion of it found itself in someone else’s post.

    Nonetheless, I gathered that Knucksie did in fact believe that the 1992 Braves were better than the 1992 Blue Jays — except for the bullpen which is why they lost — and I do disagree with that opinion. Respectfully.

    It’s neither here nor there but I didn’t intend to compare the 1993 Braves to the 1993 Blue Jays but I’ll live with that having been my fault for not writing clearly.

    I do sympathize with his experience of mean people comparing the Braves to the Bills. I also had that experience. It was unpleasant but I knew it was over one night as I smoked weed with an Indians fan and watched the Braves win the 95 series.

    Now, I do wish you the best going forward and hope you are making the most of your time in this life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    Of course baby Braves fans (of which there are many) are going to claim that they got beat by better teams to justify losing. Either of those first 2 were very winnable.
    I won't explicitly argue the Twins because there was a lot out of the Braves control from the outside circumstances to Kirby Puckett putting in the game of his life in game 6.

    But let's talk Toronto, in 1992, Toronto had the second best offense in baseball, behind only the Athletics, and had really good pitching. Were they as good as the Braves? Nope of course not, but the Braves offense wasn't anywhere near close to the Jays. In 1992 the 2 Jays were the complete team. They were the Indians last year. They were a team who had good pitching (great situationally) and amazing offense. Juan Guzman was a beast that year, he should have been in the MVP running behind Clemens, Mussina, and Appier. But the voters were dumb as **** and somehow Eckersley won it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I won't explicitly argue the Twins because there was a lot out of the Braves control from the outside circumstances to Kirby Puckett putting in the game of his life in game 6.

    But let's talk Toronto, in 1992, Toronto had the second best offense in baseball, behind only the Athletics, and had really good pitching. Were they as good as the Braves? Nope of course not, but the Braves offense wasn't anywhere near close to the Jays. In 1992 the 2 Jays were the complete team. They were the Indians last year. They were a team who had good pitching (great situationally) and amazing offense. Juan Guzman was a beast that year, he should have been in the MVP running behind Clemens, Mussina, and Appier. But the voters were dumb as **** and somehow Eckersley won it.
    David Cone, Jimmy Key, stacked bullpen. Jack Morris as fourth starter.

    Their staff was stacked.

    Alomar, Olerud, Winfield, Carter, great year by Candy Maldonado. Devon White.

    It was great team that cemented legacy by repeating in 1993.

    Losing to Phillies the following year was much more questionable.

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    Bobby also won a division with the Blue Jays 7 years earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Because he was old
    I believe his knees were both really hurting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    that’s disconcerting.

    Perhaps we’ve gotten off in the wrong foot.

    I did in fact understand your helpful comment the first time.

    However, after your post Knucksie appeared offended that I’d quoted his post out of context.

    I was attempting to clear up that I had no such intent because to the best of my knowledge at the time I was responding to zitothebrave.

    In fact, I never read knucksie’s full post and am not sure how a portion of it found itself in someone else’s post.

    Nonetheless, I gathered that Knucksie did in fact believe that the 1992 Braves were better than the 1992 Blue Jays — except for the bullpen which is why they lost — and I do disagree with that opinion. Respectfully.

    It’s neither here nor there but I didn’t intend to compare the 1993 Braves to the 1993 Blue Jays but I’ll live with that having been my fault for not writing clearly.

    I do sympathize with his experience of mean people comparing the Braves to the Bills. I also had that experience. It was unpleasant but I knew it was over one night as I smoked weed with an Indians fan and watched the Braves win the 95 series.

    Now, I do wish you the best going forward and hope you are making the most of your time in this life.
    You were offered a graceful exit, then just keep running your mouth off. Now, could you please kindly STFU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucksie View Post
    You were offered a graceful exit, then just keep running your mouth off. Now, could you please kindly STFU?
    I did not intend to offend you. I am sorry.

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