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    He finally got one of his loser followers to attack a journalist
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    Trump declaring a national emergency for boarder wall undoes so much goodwill he'd gained.

    Pathetic abuse of power that Democrats are sure to use when back in power

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    More fake race crimes....the democrats/left are a bunch of jokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Medicare for all is a big money grab from producers to the non-producers.

    That is socialism in a nutshell.
    Health insurance used to be really good, as long as you could afford it.

    ACA changed that to health insurance is mostly bad, far fewer of us can afford it, and those who couldn't afford the good, pre ACA insurance are now gifted the same crappy insurance that everyone else was downgraded to.

    Medicare for all would continue the crappy coverage, while making the inefficiency even less transparent than it is now.

    I would rather go back to the pre ACA insurance market, so that those willing to pay a reasonable rate can have reasonable insurance, but Republicans don't have the fortitude to ever make that happen. ACA has fulfilled candidate Obama's prophecy of a system so bad that it makes nationalized health care appealing.

    So sign me up, let's bring on European style, walk in and don't pay a dime, healthcare. That's the endgame anyway. Just don't make us go through another system that's designed to be so terrible that we want even less control over it. Save the dog and pony show and make it "free."
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Trump declaring a national emergency for boarder wall undoes so much goodwill he'd gained.

    Pathetic abuse of power that Democrats are sure to use when back in power
    "so much goodwill he'd gained"?

    Could you elaborate on this? I'd truly like to know.
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    Trump refused to believe that North Korea had test-fired a missile

    in 2017, per Andrew McCabe book. “He thought that North Korea did

    not have the capability to launch such missiles. He said he knew this

    because Vladimir Putin had told him so.”
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    Two U.S. citizens who say Customs and Border Protection officials detained them for speaking Spanish while they waited in a convenience store line in Havre, Mont., have filed a federal lawsuit arguing that their constitutional rights were violated.

    The women — Ana Suda and Martha “Mimi” Hernandez — say the May 16, 2018, incident began after the nursing assistants finished work, put their children to bed and went to the gym together. They then decided to pick up milk and eggs at the Town Pump, a store in the small town about 35 miles south of the Canadian border. That’s when they say a border agent approached them and commented on Hernandez’s accent, asking where they were born, according to the lawsuit, which the American Civil Liberties Union filed against CBP on Thursday in U.S. District Court in Great Falls, Mont.

    The women told the agent they were from Texas and California; Suda then made a video of the agent after he sought to see their identification cards.

    “Ma’am, the reason I asked you for your ID is because I came in here, and I saw that you guys are speaking Spanish, which is very unheard of up here,” the agent says in the video, which the ACLU has released.

    The women allege that the agent then detained them for 45 minutes instead of letting them go when they identified themselves as U.S. citizens. Cody Wofsy, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s Immigrants’ Rights Project, said the unlawful detention amounts to a violation of the Fourth Amendment’s bar on unreasonable searches and seizures.

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    why lie ?
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    I can't wait for a democrat or something other than gaslight trump party to be president

    this national emergency thing can come in handy to actually deal with things the republicans refuse to deal with
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    Some of you may remember the line item veto case decided by the Supreme Court in 1998. One of the issues in that case was the non-delegation doctrine, which is that one branch of government may not delegate a power given to it under the Constitution to another branch. I suspect the non-delegation doctrine might come up in the case of Trump's emergency declaration. If Trump uses the Emergency Powers Act, passed after Watergate, legal challenges may succeed on the grounds that even if it wanted to Congress may not give up its constitutional powers over the purse. It will be an interesting case.

    The line item veto case did not break along ideological lines. The Supreme Court voted to strike it down 6-3. The dissenters were Breyer, Scalia and O'Connor. A liberal, a conservative, and a centrist. The lack of clear ideological fault lines means there is an additional element of unpredictability to these kinds of cases.
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    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

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    Put aside what a horrible individual and deal maker he is

    But Donald Trump might be the worst politician I have seen in over 50 years of following current events
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Put aside what a horrible individual and deal maker he is

    But Donald Trump might be the worst politician I have seen in over 50 years of following current events
    venality tempered by incompetence

    aka a really bad hire
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Trump declaring a national emergency for boarder wall undoes so much goodwill he'd gained.

    Pathetic abuse of power that Democrats are sure to use when back in power
    Our only hope is the Supreme Court. I'm reasonably confident they'll rule overwhelmingly to stop him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    "so much goodwill he'd gained"?

    Could you elaborate on this? I'd truly like to know.
    I'm assuming Sturg is referring to the goodwill his actual policies have generated among conservatives, despite the unending clown show he fuels with his mouth. No one with any self awareness can claim to be both conservative and a fan of such an unprecedented power grab. This is the scariest thing I can recall any President doing in my lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    venality tempered by incompetence

    aka a really bad hire
    it blows my mind to think people thought he was a good deal maker/business man

    much less still believe that rubbish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    I'm assuming Sturg is referring to the goodwill his actual policies have generated among conservatives, despite the unending clown show he fuels with his mouth. No one with any self awareness can claim to be both conservative and a fan of such an unprecedented power grab. This is the scariest thing I can recall any President doing in my lifetime.
    Nothing will ever beat Obama's NDAA and assassinating American citizens in my book.

    But this precedent will be disastrous especially when the socialists take power

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