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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    Jury's still out on how competent he is. He was willing to send a minor haul for JTR. Thank goodness the Marlins still gonna be Marlins and turned him down.
    I don't think it was even confirmed who was in that deal besides Riley. That said JTR is having a great year. Has more WAR than any Brave entering todays action although Freddie probably passed him tonight.

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    I would be totally comfortable talking about baseball in a different light than Hank Aaron

    cause i know at the end of the day we both would agree with his most recent quote and we could have a good laugh

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    such a weird statement though for that to be the judge of something though.

    also weird that you are somehow putting AA in a negative light cause of a trade rumor that never happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    i don't like that philly is set to face our two struggling pitchers plus Fried this weekend. Would like to change that out, they are lucky to miss both Soroka and Teheran.
    dont think Gausman will make that start
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I understand giving Newk an opportunity to start but dude is a freaking weapon in the BP.
    starters are more valuable
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    You guys don't get it. Donaldson needs to hit 30 HRs drive in 90 for him to be worth his money. If he doesn't he sucks period. I don't need a new age stat to tell me a guy is not performing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy View Post
    Man, that Markakis guy is a bum.
    will end up right around 1 WAR. notttt great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    will end up right around 1 WAR. notttt great.
    Unless you are a value junkie. But I think he could get to 1:5 with more rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Unless you are a value junkie. But I think he could get to 1:5 with more rest.
    value junkies rule
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    value junkies rule
    but markakis and his contract, sadly, do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    You guys don't get it. Donaldson needs to hit 30 HRs drive in 90 for him to be worth his money. If he doesn't he sucks period. I don't need a new age stat to tell me a guy is not performing.
    Translation: "I don't understand the new stats and don't care to educate myself about them"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    but markakis and his contract, sadly, do not.
    I'd say his contract is pretty awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I'd say his contract is pretty awesome.
    it's fine for a bench player..but i don't see the Braves ever making him one. that's the part that makes it saddest for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Unless you are a value junkie. But I think he could get to 1:5 with more rest.
    Neck needing rest is overblown. Hes just not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    but markakis and his contract, sadly, do not.
    he's being paid 4M this year, the going rate for a 0.5 WAR player...anything beyond that is gravy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    it's fine for a bench player..but i don't see the Braves ever making him one. that's the part that makes it saddest for me.
    the usage pattern by Snit and Muk's contract are two different things
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Neck needing rest is overblown. Hes just not good.
    I disagree I think every player is better with regular rest but the Effects are even more profound the older you get. Note I didn’t say he would be a superstar with regular rest I said he would be about a half a win better with regular rest
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    the usage pattern by Snit and Muk's contract are two different things
    Neck being on the roster at all is an issue as I don't see them trying to upgrade over him, relegating him to a bench role. i hope i'm wrong and they'll make a move if necessary, whether it's a platoon with Duvall or another acquisition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I disagree I think every player is better with regular rest but the Effects are even more profound the older you get. Note I didn’t say he would be a superstar with regular rest I said he would be about a half a win better with regular rest
    You're right. I never understood how Bobby Cox and then Fredi let Chipper decide when he would play. That was crazy. Chipper is always going to want to play. And just about every player is like that. The manager is the one being paid to have the right perspective on rest and playing time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I said he would be about a half a win better with regular rest
    which is a stretch and not based on much, FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    Neck being on the roster at all is an issue as I don't see them trying to upgrade over him, relegating him to a bench role. i hope i'm wrong and they'll make a move if necessary, whether it's a platoon with Duvall or another acquisition.
    They made an offer to Brantley. He had a similar offer from Houston and chose to play for them. So we moved on to Muk. And partly because we signed him to a good value contract we had a chance to sign Keuchel.

    But on the different topic of playing time and rest, I think Muk should be platooned with Camargo getting the starts when there is a lefty on the mound. And when you have a run of right handed starters I would also rest Muk on day games after night games (in this case have Joyce play right). And looking at our recent series, he has been getting about a game off per series.

    Against the Giants he wasn't in the lineup in game 4. Then he played 5 straight games against the Cards and gnats (with an off day between those two series). He wasn't in the lineup for game 3 of the Tigers series. Then he played all 3 games in Pittsburgh (I would have given him a game off). Then he was out of the lineup for game 3 against Miami. So in the past few weeks, Snit has maybe given him 1 or 2 games more than I would have.

    To the extent Snit got off track it was during a period when Camargo was struggling and Muk was hot. This is understandable although I think it is a mistake to try to ride the hot hand in these situations. We know from a larger sample that Camargo should be in against lefties for him.
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