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    Peraza In Play

    Bowden just mentioned on XM that he was led to believe that we apparently had a deal in place to move Peraza for a Pitcher we wanted (therefore Crick and Panik would make sense for Justin).
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Bowden just mentioned on XM that he was led to believe that we apparently had a deal in place to move Peraza for a Pitcher we wanted (therefore Crick and Panik would make sense for Justin).
    I don't believe it. Makes absolutely no sense to move a guy like Peraza. Not saying you're making it up just that I don't believe Bowden.

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    Well if a team thinks he can play SS he may have even more value....

    If he goes it better be for a stud. I wonder how Hart thinks we are going to score runs. I guess he's planning on winning games 1-0 and 3-2.

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    Bowden is so worthless.

    He has poisoned everything he's touched

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    I just don't see it. Trade Peraza for a pitcher we want then trade Justin Upton for pitching. Why not trade Gattis for pitching too and have a 9 man rotation.

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    I wish Bowden was still a GM so we could make trades with him.
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    Bowden is full of crap as usual, Peraza isn't going to be traded.

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    I'm pretty sure that if Peraza is traded, it will be accompanied by an outcome we like a lot (huge return, Melvin sent packing, etc.). Still, I would venture to bet that this is just Bowden being Bowden.

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    I wouldn't mind trading Peraza for a good haul. The alternative is watching Fredi put him at the top of the lineup with a .300 OBP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    Bowden is full of crap as usual, Peraza isn't going to be traded.
    While i believe, and hope you are correct, i remember believing the same thing about Wainwright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I wouldn't mind trading Peraza for a good haul. The alternative is watching Fredi put him at the top of the lineup with a .300 OBP.
    Not sure I understand what you mean? Peraza would be a better option at the top than about...oh, anyone we've had in the spot for years now! IF and that's a big IF it were on the table, I agree that the haul should be nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I wouldn't mind trading Peraza for a good haul. The alternative is watching Fredi put him at the top of the lineup with a .300 OBP.
    Agreed. As someone who's not sold that Peraza is a bonafide future major-league table-setter, and who imagines that he'd be a lot more valuable at SS than at 2B (or even CF), I definitely think he should be on the table if the return is right. That doesn't mean I think he should be tossed away like so many LaStellas, but I am a bit bearish on his value.
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    As with most things, it'll depend on the return. Peraza's a really good prospect, but he has his flaws, and if you can spin him into multiple pieces while picking up a long-term second baseman in an Upton trade it might well work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Agreed. As someone who's not sold that Peraza is a bonafide future major-league table-setter, and who imagines that he'd be a lot more valuable at SS than at 2B (or even CF), I definitely think he should be on the table if the return is right. That doesn't mean I think he should be tossed away like so many LaStellas, but I am a bit bearish on his value.
    I think his skills are going to be very solid. Swings at a lot, but isn't a strike out machine and can get on base. I do agree that if he won't be at SS, he's a candidate. But we need to replenish prospects, not trade our better ones. Just me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    can get on base.
    That remains to be seen. His walk rate is far from impressive.
    All you need is Hart and Cox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    Not sure I understand what you mean? Peraza would be a better option at the top than about...oh, anyone we've had in the spot for years now! IF and that's a big IF it were on the table, I agree that the haul should be nice!
    That isn't true at all. He's basically the same as Schafer in that role. Don't get me wrong, I like him, and I want to see him out there complementing Simmons defensively, but he is not a leadoff guy and Fredi has already hinted that is where he will go when he makes the team. His best lineup position would be 9th, especially with an AL team.

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    While I agree that it doesn't seem to make sense at first glance, I'm afraid you guys are being a little too snarky about Bowden. Don't get me wrong. he rubs me the wrong way too. That said, he's just stating what he's been told by someone he feels has credibility - and his "sources" have certainly proved to be much better than DOB or Bowman's over time.

    Just for ****s and giggles, let's imagine he's right. He didn't say he'd be traded alone FWIW. So, thinking outside of the box...

    Justin supposedly doesn't net Hart Gausman or Bundy. The question is, would Peraza AND Gattis? Peraza becomes their long-term answer at 2B, Gattis replaces Cruz, and they sign Aoki to replace Markakis...

    Peraza, Aoki, Jones, Wieters, Machado, Gattis, Davis, Pearce (LF), Hardy would be a pretty potent lineup. Schoop would play 2B at the start of the season if Peraza's not ready, and then becomes a super-sub type.

    If that got us Bundy, Hart could then circle back to Seattle for say Marte (to replace Peraza), Kivlehan, and Edwin Diaz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    While I agree that it doesn't seem to make sense at first glance, I'm afraid you guys are being a little too snarky about Bowden. Don't get me wrong. he rubs me the wrong way too. That said, he's just stating what he's been told by someone he feels has credibility - and his "sources" have certainly proved to be much better than DOB or Bowman's over time.

    Just for ****s and giggles, let's imagine he's right. He didn't say he'd be traded alone FWIW. So, thinking outside of the box...

    Justin supposedly doesn't net Hart Gausman or Bundy. The question is, would Peraza AND Gattis? Peraza becomes their long-term answer at 2B, Gattis replaces Cruz, and they sign Aoki to replace Markakis...

    Peraza, Aoki, Jones, Wieters, Machado, Gattis, Davis, Pearce (LF), Hardy would be a pretty potent lineup. Schoop would play 2B at the start of the season if Peraza's not ready, and then becomes a super-sub type.

    If that got us Bundy, Hart could then circle back to Seattle for say Marte (to replace Peraza), Kivlehan, and Edwin Diaz.
    I just don't see how trading Gattis AND Peraza for someone like Bundy makes us any better short or long term. Look...if we held on to La Stella or say got a guy like Panik along with a lot more in an Upton deal I'm not against shopping Peraza. But we need impact bats and Peraza could be that. We better be getting a big prospect at another position if we trade him.

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    http://deadspin.com/jim-bowden-caugh...t-d-1614081824

    That's all I care to know about Bowden and his "sources".

    This Peraza stuff to me sounds like him trying to justify that piss poor Upton article he wrote yesterday that got torn to shreds in its comment section. I am not suggesting Peraza is untouchable because he has his shortcomings, but he didn't even qualify the possibility of Peraza being moved before word vomiting a ****ty article. He's click bait and an even worse talent evaluator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That isn't true at all. He's basically the same as Schafer in that role. Don't get me wrong, I like him, and I want to see him out there complementing Simmons defensively, but he is not a leadoff guy and Fredi has already hinted that is where he will go when he makes the team. His best lineup position would be 9th, especially with an AL team.
    I can admit a bias...I've seen him in several parks last year. I enjoy seeing a guy be able to beat out a routine grounder and YES, he has flaws like many other prospects. That's what he is. But he'd put a lot more pressure on an infield than freaking Schafer. I don't buy that at all.

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