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    Meals of Wheels

    " Of all of the stupid and unsupportable and irrational cuts suggested by the Trump White House, this may end up being the dumbest – because it might be the most obviously pointlessly cruel. If the entire tax base of America can’t agree to chip in a few pennies to bring food to people who need food, and who are so grateful to receive the food, how are we even a country? "

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    Fake news. Only 3% of Meals on wheels funding comes from federal programs like the CDBG. So the funding that Meals on Wheels gets from the CDBG is only a portion of that 3%.

    Even Snopes had to debunk the claim.

    CDBG is apparently a cesspool of cronyism and corruption.

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    Or, is this just budgetary saber rattling ?
    If there is anything we have learned about the Trump Administration they are not afraid to saber rattle or flash shiney things

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Fake news. Only 3% of Meals on wheels funding comes from federal programs like the CDBG. So the funding that Meals on Wheels gets from the CDBG is only a portion of that 3%.

    Even Snopes had to debunk the claim.

    CDBG is apparently a cesspool of cronyism and corruption.
    But if it's only 3% of funding, why did Trump decide to cut it. Savings are minimal and the PR is terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    But if it's only 3% of funding, why did Trump decide to cut it. Savings are minimal and the PR is terrible.
    Same can be said for a lot of the discretionary spending cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    But if it's only 3% of funding, why did Trump decide to cut it. Savings are minimal and the PR is terrible.
    He didn't cut the Meals on Wheels program, he cut the CDBG. I'm saying that the CDBG only provides probably less than 1% of the funds for meals on wheels program. It's fake news. He cut the CDBG program because of its known issues with corruption. Will have virtually no impact on meals on wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    He didn't cut the Meals on Wheels program, he cut the CDBG. I'm saying that the CDBG only provides probably less than 1% of the funds for meals on wheels program. It's fake news. He cut the CDBG program because of its known issues with corruption. Will have virtually no impact on meals on wheels.
    But if it has no effect and can even remotely be perceived as a cut, it's flat-out bad politics. That's my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    But if it has no effect and can even remotely be perceived as a cut, it's flat-out bad politics. That's my point.
    Only because of fake news being pushed by libs. I think it's a good thing to get rid of a $6 billion per year corrupt government program even if it might mean bad politics because of media lies.

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    That's the thing about a lot of these discretionary spending cuts. They play well to a very small, very narrow, very specific audience. They play very poorly otherwise (even as some of them, I'll grant you, are misunderstood or misrepresented).

    Like 50 says, it's dumb politics.

    Personally, I think the Rs have confused having a majority with having a mandate for a heritage foundation circle-jerk.

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    CDBG is money that goes to inner cities. So let's quit pretending what this is about.

    Taking money from those with less to give a tax break to those with more
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Only because of fake news being pushed by libs. I think it's a good thing to get rid of a $6 billion per year corrupt government program even if it might mean bad politics because of media lies.
    You know, the folks in Appalachia and the Rust Belt (to say nothing of the Deep South) who voted for Trump are on the federal teat in about 1000 different ways. This budget--and the health care bill--directly hoses them. It's hubristic and it's dumb politics.

    No amount of smug Paul Ryan powerpoints are going to fix that. Trump could do it, if there actually were some substance to his persona, but I've seen no evidence of that.

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    Remember kids... there are not cuts that will be permitted from the left. Not a single one

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Remember kids... there are not cuts that will be permitted from the left. Not a single one
    Boo hoo. Obstruction sucks, doesn't it? (Except we're obstructing things that ACTUALLY make sense to obstruct.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaneHill View Post
    Boo hoo. Obstruction sucks, doesn't it? (Except we're obstructing things that ACTUALLY make sense to obstruct.)
    Yes - let the state control more of your life. Just don't complain if they tell you who you're allowed to marry

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    since some stupid ****s on this forum say i am "the left"


    i swear on everything i own, i can easily cut the ever living **** out of the budget

    as opposed to what some ****boy here says
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Only because of fake news being pushed by libs. I think it's a good thing to get rid of a $6 billion per year corrupt government program even if it might mean bad politics because of media lies.
    And the right didn't push fake news against the Obama agenda? Let's at least attempt to be balanced here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    But if it has no effect and can even remotely be perceived as a cut, it's flat-out bad politics. That's my point.
    Well, bad politics to who?

    Maybe to people like 57 who, despite having been informed, still remain wrapped up in a faux furor relegated to self-perpetuation in small, predictable circles.

    I don't think the GOP particularly cares if (a small segment of) Democrats find it to be poor practice.

    Others, either conservatives or just people who are interested in actualities, see the cut for what it is and this 'controversy' ultimately is gone like a fart in the wind.

    When you can point to trillions upon trillions in national debt and call these actions 'fiscally responsible' measures instead of 'austerity' measures that's smart politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    CDBG is money that goes to inner cities.
    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    This budget--and the health care bill--directly hoses them. It's hubristic and it's dumb politics.
    I know you said ~1000 different ways, but could you list 5 for me?

    5 that directly "hose" people in Appalachia, the Rust Belt, and the Deep South with hubris and stupidity.

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