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    She was also against court packing

    Secret republican in hiding

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    To my point this is a faux argument.
    It is in no way certain, and highly unlikely 60
    ( D) would endorse.

    A trojan horse, a false trap

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    To my point this is a faux argument.
    It is in no way certain, and highly unlikely 60
    ( D) would endorse.

    A trojan horse, a false trap
    Wouldn't need 60. If they're court packing they'd change the Senate rules and kill the filibuster (or at least expand the nuclear option to cover all judiciary votes). They're not getting 60 votes but there's a chance they could get 50.

    It's not a false trap. It's something a lot of Dems are keeping notably silent about. If it was such a dead issue, why not just come out and say it's a dead issue?

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    Because (D) finally doesnt ask how high and what color.

    Or, there is no there ---- there

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Because (D) finally doesnt ask how high and what color.

    Or, there is no there ---- there
    Lol they are deceiving the American people of their plans bc they know it is unpopular.

    You know this. Why deny it?

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    Their plan ?
    In the course of an hour we have gone from floating an idea to a plan.

    Which is why this is a faux issue.
    Is this the new rallying cry for 2024 ?

    Uhhh they will expand the court
    Stop it

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    You're too stupid to keep debating with

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    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

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    Apoorva Mandavilli
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    A teacher and two students at the school attended by children of Amy Coney Barrett,

    the Supreme Court nominee who brought her family to a Rose Garden celebration

    at the White House on Sept. 26, have tested positive for the coronavirus.
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    AND: Kathryn Mizelle is up for a committee vote Thursday.

    She was rated Not Qualified, is only 8 years out of

    law school & hasn't tried a case since her admission to the bar.

    It’s not just SCOTUS: Senate is working to confirm judges at all

    levels instead of passing COVID relief.


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    How much experience did Kagan have?

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    Elena Kagan (/ˈkeɪɡən/ KAY-gən; born April 28, 1960) is an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. She was nominated by President Barack Obama on May 10, 2010 and has served since August 7, 2010. Kagan is the fourth woman to become a member of the Court.

    Kagan was born and raised in New York City. After graduating from Princeton University, the University of Oxford, and Harvard Law School, she clerked for a federal Court of Appeals judge and for Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. She began her career as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School, leaving to serve as Associate White House Counsel, and later as policy adviser under President Bill Clinton. After a nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, which expired without action, she became a professor at Harvard Law School and was later named its first female dean.

    In 2009, Kagan became the first female Solicitor General of the United States. President Obama nominated her to the Supreme Court to fill the vacancy arising from the impending retirement of Justice John Paul Stevens. The United States Senate confirmed her nomination by a vote of 63 to 37. She is considered part of the Court's liberal wing but tends to be one of the more moderate justices of that group. She wrote the majority opinion in Cooper v. Harris, a landmark case restricting the permissible uses of race in drawing congressional districts.
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    A simple Wiki search spells out her experience
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    so she was literally never a judge before being appointed to supreme court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    so she was literally never a judge before being appointed to supreme court.
    This is super dumb. Kagan was solicitor of the US, aka "the 10th justice." If Trump nominated Ted Olsen or Paul Clement, only an idiot would argue they were "unqualified." This Mazelle person appears to be a trial attorney who listed her biggest litigation as when she was an intern in law school. But she did clerk for Pryor/Katsas/Thomas, the FedSoc dream card, and then work as an underling at Jones Day DC (with the FedSoc dream team)!

    sturg, a better argument would just be "it doesn't matter, she's probably smart enough to do it." That's at least probably true, unlike the very dumb false equivalency you've drawn. She also is anti-paper money so you guys should probably get married.

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    I didnt say she was unqualified.

    I'm just saying her "experience" isn't something that differentiates her from ACB

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I didnt say she was unqualified.

    I'm just saying her "experience" isn't something that differentiates her from ACB
    Is solicitor general a form of "experience"?

    Does this form of "experience" differentiate the two?

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    I will add that ACB is highly qualified imo. We should be comfortable with a wide range of judicial philosophies on the court and a variety of career paths leading up to appointment to it.

    Her religious beliefs are part of who she is. It should be written about by the press. It ought not to affect how Senators assess her appointment.
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    They both have unique experience and both qualified for the court.

    Don't let that stop the nutjobs from saying ACB isn't though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I didnt say she was unqualified.

    I'm just saying her "experience" isn't something that differentiates her from ACB
    you compared her (Kagan) experience to another nominee (Mizelle) to another court.
    The subject being, packing the court by McConnell ramming through people
    deemed unqualified but aligned ideologically.
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