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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Nah. It's a valid strategy.

    He was performing for his base to continue the me vs the world thing. And at the same time he was also dragging down the debate with his sabotaging of the debate process. He baited Biden quite a bit.
    Trump had countless opportunities to crush this debate and he failed miserably. Maybe you're right and it had some impact. Telemundo watchers were resoundingly more favorable to trump which is a huge demographic thst could tilt the race.
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    My analysis, it's sad this is the point we reached. There wasn't a president on the stage last night.

    That being said, Trump would have done better to hold his tongue and not interrupt so much. My guess is he thought he would get Biden flustered and give Trump ammo about Biden's age/mental state. But in the end Trump probably would have been better served to let Biden speak. Biden has often had a tendency to say stupid things when given the chance. Giving Biden more chance to speak without interruption probably would have yielded more Trump could use than interrupting him.

    Next, both candidates should have come out against something and refused to answer a question. Biden should have come out against court packing and Trump should have come out against the proud boys. Trump's answer should have been something to the effect of how he represents the overwhelming majority of Americans who want peace and unity and not those fringe groups that sow discord. Biden's refusal to come out for or against court packing makes him look either like he's hiding something or that he's too weak to state a controversial viewpoint.

    Ultimately, this debate did nothing except diminish both candidates. Something all too predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Biden also said antifa wasn't a real group, just an idea.
    Biden was quoting Christopher Wray

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...anization.html
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    I didn’t watch the debate, but reading the reactions here and elsewhere, I can’t help but think Jorgensen would’ve had a positive bump in the polls had she been invited to participate.

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    Mike Reese
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    In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff”
    supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported
    Donald Trump and will never support him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    I didn’t watch the debate, but reading the reactions here and elsewhere, I can’t help but think Jorgensen would’ve had a positive bump in the polls had she been invited to participate.
    Without looking it up, what is Jorgenson's first name

    why not pick out any random, because that is what she is, someone random
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    David Rambo
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    When you remember that JoeBiden is a stutterer making
    his voice heard while being bullied and shouted at, this is
    a remarkable example of grace under fire.


    we were talking this at home of a Trump strategy, to make Biden stutter uncontrollably
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    there was no strategy...what we saw is someone with some rather severe psychological problems acting out...he deserves compassion...but he should not be holding high office
    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-30-2020 at 08:09 AM.
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    His debate preppers were Chris Christie and Rudy.
    Rudy got a axe to grind with Joe

    For two weeks like a boxing trainer he been yelling in Trumps ear, " make him stutter --- make him stutter "
    granted, the word "strategy" was a reach
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    His debate preppers were Chris Christie and Rudy.
    Rudy got a axe to grind with Joe

    For two weeks like a boxing trainer he been yelling in Trumps ear, " make him stutter --- make him stutter "
    maybe the word "strategy" was a reach
    my guess is his handlers and trainers were not expecting anything like this
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    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

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    the fix that very poorly chosen one needs has nothing to do with politics or debate preparation...he needs help
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    Christie wasn't expecting what happened when he closed the bridge
    and Rudy is drunk

    foresight aint their strong suit
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Christie wasn't expecting what happened when he closed the bridge
    and Rudy is drunk

    foresight aint their strong suit
    they weren't telling him to make joe stutter....what we saw last night was an unhinged man acting out in front of a global television audience...reality tv at its saddest
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    point is, would you put it past them ?

    there was a time when reasonable people said there was no Russian interference, or that Trump was a billionaire, or he really wont impose a Muslim Ban or he really diidnt mean a real wall

    those few examples above show, these people are capable of saying and doing most anything
    whether they did or not, is immaterial

    In real time, having lived around stutterers, I was on the edge of my seat
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    point is, would you put it past them ?

    there was a time when reasonable people said there was no Russian interference, or that Trump was a billionaire, or he really wont impose a Muslim Ban or he really diidnt mean a real wall

    those few examples above show, these people are capable of saying and doing most anything
    whether they did or not, is immaterial

    In real time, having lived around stutterers, I was on the edge of my seat
    i wouldn't put anything past anyone

    but very poorly chosen one has rarely listened to anyone other than his id...he and the word strategy don't belong in the same sentence

    at the end of the day the story of the past four years is one of mental illness...one man's mental illness and a more worrisome form of mass psychosis...i left the Republican Party because it literally went crazy...there are some decent people who stuck it out...they made their calculations...we'll see how it turns out for them, the party and the country
    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-30-2020 at 08:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Something something pearl clutching from the guy who is on record as wanting people on the board dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Without looking it up, what is Jorgenson's first name

    why not pick out any random, because that is what she is, someone random
    1) Jo

    2) Why not pick out any random? Because “any random” isn’t on every ballot for the 2020 presidential election

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    i'm trying to remember...there is a very famous political theorist who advocated drawing leaders by lot...Plato?...it is not a bad idea and one with a long lineage

    i believe the head of the Coptic Church in Egypt is drawn by lot...from a list...you make up a list of qualified people and draw someone by lot
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    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

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