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    Now that men can be women I don't see why we can't weigh in on the topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Sorry, I should have clarified. When it comes to the ability to take preventative measures such as birth control, would not the risk of sexual assault be compelling in any way? I mean this really from a purely hypothetical world where we iron out some massive agreement to ban abortions in exchange for ensuring we are doing anything we can to provide options to either avoid pregnancy or not have burdens placed on either the mother or the child.
    Politics is often about compromise. In my ideal world everyone who doesn't actively want to become pregnant would have a medication option for temporary sterilization. In the world we're in now? Making morning after meds available to women who report sexual assaults in lieu of universal abortion access would make me tap dance down Main Street.
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    I was more willing to move a bit on her abortion is acceptable.

    Now after having my first child? I can’t imagine anyone wanting to abort a baby. Best thing in my life.
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    Now, don't mess it up with moonbat candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I was more willing to move a bit on her abortion is acceptable.

    Now after having my first child? I can’t imagine anyone wanting to abort a baby. Best thing in my life.
    Yep. I was one those Clinton-esque types that disagreed with it but didn't think it fair to impose my will on others. The first ultrasound where the kid started to look like a kid radicalized me.
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    Say no to country club republicans candidates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Now, don't mess it up with moonbat candidates.

    https://www.civiqs.com/results/favor...ue&zoomIn=true

    Might not need to mess it up much to lose… Amazingly everyone just doesn’t like Washington, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    https://www.civiqs.com/results/favor...ue&zoomIn=true

    Might not need to mess it up much to lose… Amazingly everyone just doesn’t like Washington, basically.
    Republicans mess it up if they continue to elect people like Romney.

    That’s not where the party is right now. The “crazy” candidates are the ones that actually fight for their voters. Those people are popular within the Republican Party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    https://www.civiqs.com/results/favor...ue&zoomIn=true

    Might not need to mess it up much to lose… Amazingly everyone just doesn’t like Washington, basically.


    Hey I'm on the side of the majority for a change!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Politics is often about compromise. In my ideal world everyone who doesn't actively want to become pregnant would have a medication option for temporary sterilization. In the world we're in now? Making morning after meds available to women who report sexual assaults in lieu of universal abortion access would make me tap dance down Main Street.
    Why not sterilize men till they are in a marriage or relationship and have decided they want to have children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    This is a great example of the problem with the abortion debate. First, people tend to argue that you have to have some kind of qualification to have an opinion on the issue. That you either have to be a woman or have to have adopted kids. That kind of stuff. But it doesn't require those things to have an opinion on whether a fetus a human life with the same rights as any other or whether it has no rights separate from the mother.

    People also argue practical issues in the abortion debate. Like what would happen to all the children and whether it would be a drain on the system. But that's all irrelevant. If a fetus has rights that are the same as any other person then those rights cannot be violated for mere convenience. If you have a child and you're struggling to afford to care for that child, you're not allowed to euthanize your child because of the economics of it. The reason is because your child has a right to exist that is separate and distinct from you. If a fetus has those same rights then practical considerations cannot be taken into account.

    On the flip side, if a fetus has no rights apart from the mother then anti-abortion laws are horrific infringements on a woman's rights to autonomy over her body.

    The problem is that no one wants to argue the philosophical question of when rights attach and personhood begins because there's no objective answer. It's far easier to assume your answer to that question is correct and then argue murder or invasion of rights to control your body.
    I have no problems with those things

    I just want to know how many kids are being adopted by the loudest in the room
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I love how "not destroying a baby in the womb" is considered the worst instincts of the republican party
    When do you celebrate your birthday as a human?

    When you were born or at 6 weeks as a fetus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    I have no problems with those things

    I just want to know how many kids are being adopted by the loudest in the room
    I still am not following how this is relevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Republicans mess it up if they continue to elect people like Romney.

    That’s not where the party is right now. The “crazy” candidates are the ones that actually fight for their voters. Those people are popular within the Republican Party.
    Hard to take you seriously when you support MTG... I freaking went to school with her... she's a disaster of a person

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    When do you celebrate your birthday as a human?

    When you were born or at 6 weeks as a fetus?
    So because we don't celebrate birthday's till babies are out of the womb, they aren't alive humans before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    So because we don't celebrate birthday's till babies are out of the womb, they aren't alive humans before?
    Well, they most certainly aren’t humans before
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    "most certainly"

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    Want more direct?

    They aren’t humans/babies
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    Yes we know you are a sick **** who supports the institution that was created to eradicate black babies

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