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    How many do you think I have?

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    Listen buddy I need to run to home Depot to get some ice to salt my driveway. You keep yourself entertained. Just try not to lose your touch with reality any further than you already have

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Listen buddy I need to run to home Depot to get some ice to salt my driveway. You keep yourself entertained. Just try not to lose your touch with reality any further than you already have
    Your parents driveway?

    Your girls parents driveway?

    Or the driveway at the house that you rent?

    So not actually your driveway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Your parents driveway?

    Your girls parents driveway?

    Or the driveway at the house that you rent?

    So not actually your driveway?
    No my driveway for the house I've owned for 5 years or so. The one where I have friends over and do hobbies and all that jazz.

    Small regret I have was when we redid the driveway here we stuck with ledgepack instead of paved. Paved is easier to blow clean but is so much hotter than Ledge Pack for the summer which is my concern typically as I like the cold more than the heat.
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    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

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    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I think you mean to say why does the GOP hate people that break the law unless of course you think this exclusively impacts the whole subset of poor people in the country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think you mean to say why does the GOP hate people that break the law unless of course you think this exclusively impacts the whole subset of poor people in the country?
    “People who get arrested should rely on their friends and family to be bailed out while awaiting trial”

    Two things:

    1) People awaiting trial haven’t necessarily broken the law. That’s what trials are there to determine.

    2) It’s saying that people who can afford bail shouldn’t have to wait it out, while poor people should.


    Eliminate cash bail, speed up trial waiting periods for crimes where bail shouldn’t be offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    “People who get arrested should rely on their friends and family to be bailed out while awaiting trial”

    Two things:

    1) People awaiting trial haven’t necessarily broken the law. That’s what trials are there to determine.

    2) It’s saying that people who can afford bail shouldn’t have to wait it out, while poor people should.


    Eliminate cash bail, speed up trial waiting periods for crimes where bail shouldn’t be offered.
    I'm just wondering why its "The GOP hates poor people" when in realty this bill is meant to target criminals, especially those that commit crimes during color revolutions (hello summer of love) only to be bailed out by the same people that seeded said revolution.

    If you don't think that was happening during 2020 well then you are never going to understand the position this politician is making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm just wondering why its "The GOP hates poor people" when in realty this bill is meant to target criminals, especially those that commit crimes during color revolutions (hello summer of love) only to be bailed out by the same people that seeded said revolution.

    If you don't think that was happening during 2020 well then you are never going to understand the position this politician is making.
    I literally just told you my exact reasoning for why I feel this way and you have elected not to respond to my argument and instead have repeated your initial argument. Why is it that you think a pre-trial system based on personal/familial wealth is just? And why is it right for a parent to bail their kid out of jail, but wrong for people to come together to help others do the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I literally just told you my exact reasoning for why I feel this way and you have elected not to respond to my argument and instead have repeated your initial argument. Why is it that you think a pre-trial system based on personal/familial wealth is just? And why is it right for a parent to bail their kid out of jail, but wrong for people to come together to help others do the same?
    Friends and family can still come together. The idea is to stop bail funds for criminals that commit violence like we saw in 2020. You want to ignore that this is what its intending to stop but there is always an easy way to avoid having to worry about bail.....

    Cash bail is a crime deterrent for those that have more incentive to commit crimes based on their position in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Friends and family can still come together. The idea is to stop bail funds for criminals that commit violence like we saw in 2020. You want to ignore that this is what its intending to stop but there is always an easy way to avoid having to worry about bail.....

    Cash bail is a crime deterrent for those that have more incentive to commit crimes based on their position in life.
    So, poor people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    So, poor people.
    Majority of crime is committed by poor people.

    But a super minority of poor are committing crimes.

    So no....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Majority of crime is committed by poor people.

    But a super minority of poor are committing crimes.

    So no....
    I’m questioning your interpretation of the intent behind cash bail, though. If it’s meant as a specific deterrent to a group of people that don’t have money to pay it, how is that not aimed at poor people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I’m questioning your interpretation of the intent behind cash bail, though. If it’s meant as a specific deterrent to a group of people that don’t have money to pay it, how is that not aimed at poor people?
    I look at it as proper risk assessment. Find your population of criminals. Determine commonalities. Use those commonalities to create policies to deter future criminal activity.

    But when you’re a leftist you don’t use evidence based approaches. It’s all feelings based and there has to be some form of underlying discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I look at it as proper risk assessment. Find your population of criminals. Determine commonalities. Use those commonalities to create policies to deter future criminal activity.

    But when you’re a leftist you don’t use evidence based approaches. It’s all feelings based and there has to be some form of underlying discrimination.
    I mean, as long as you’re willing to openly admit that you favor the system because it’s unfair, then carry on.

    I’ve also been ignoring the fact that punishments being used as a deterrent are worthless because most criminals aren’t rational actors weighing the pros and cons of their criminal activity. Otherwise the prison sentences alone would be the deterrent, not the cash bail beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I mean, as long as you’re willing to openly admit that you favor the system because it’s unfair, then carry on.

    I’ve also been ignoring the fact that punishments being used as a deterrent are worthless because most criminals aren’t rational actors weighing the pros and cons of their criminal activity. Otherwise the prison sentences alone would be the deterrent, not the cash bail beforehand.
    Well when you remove cash bail and remove sentences like the left is excited to do then you get what we see now in Liberal ****hole cities.

    Openly favor a system because its unfair? What a ****ing joke. You have absolutely no clue how to risk assess because you are driven by feelings and not logic.

    Carry on....
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