Student loans

[thewupk]

Yeah zito pretty much wrapped this one up. For some reason college degrees got pushed like home ownership. We should have a lot more trade schools and almost no grad schools. I know for a fact you can get six figure jobs without a degree. Professional certs are where it's at.

You can learn to code and make 6 figures by watching youtube videos. lol

[sturg33]

none of those are punishments

and the "money has to come from somewhere"

it's canceling a **** ton of bull**** debt for people that took out a loan of whatever, have been paying it down and still somehow owe more than they started with. i really don't give a **** if those lenders get ****ed lol

This is one of the dumbest "sentences" I've ever read

[goldfly]

"cool"

[sturg33]

Goldy doesn't understand how interest works lol

[goldfly]

yeah

totally don't lol

[sturg33]

"Still somehow owe more than they started with"

Lol

[goldfly]

OmG!!!!!

[Tapate50]

It's not just that.

The issue is the whole system is rotten to the core. All colleges should be dissolved. Period. They're all rotten. They're all bloated and corrutp and exist to perpetrate a circle of wealth. Unless you're going to school for something that requires a degree, going to college shouldn't be a lead option.

You just described our government perfectly

[acesfull86]

none of those are punishments

and the "money has to come from somewhere"

it's canceling a **** ton of bull**** debt for people that took out a loan of whatever, have been paying it down and still somehow owe more than they started with. i really don't give a **** if those lenders get ****ed lol

i agree with zito too

What's bull**** about the debt? People took it on knowing the strings attached. They have a menu of options to pay it back. If they're struggling with it, in most cases they can switch to a payback schedule tied to their income level.

Everyone's opinion on whether you should need an undergraduate or graduate degree to earn a lot of money or have a certain job is irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not debt holders have an obligation to pay back the money they borrowed...

[57Brave]

ah, personal responsibility --- bootstraps and all that

rich coming from MAGA

how quick they have changed their tune
as predicted

[57Brave]

and at what point do we stop handing out money to the Charles Koch, Tom Brady and Kelli Loefflers of the world?
odd, appears there are two different sets of rules.
////////

for a second realize the positive effects of that $xtrillion infused into the economy.
////

for the people that are saying " what about me, I paid mine" I get the resentment --- but it is just that a petty resentment.
as are all resentments.
Sucks to be born when you were born. Adult world, deal with it

[57Brave]

why does MAGA constantly see someone else getting an afront to them ?
it really is childish
but hey, why should student loans be any different

[sturg33]

I think its super sweet you want poor people to bail lur rich people.

[57Brave]

I am pissed off that ADA took the closest parking spot at the grocery store FROM ME and tyrannically gave it to someone that probably doesn't pay taxes or uses food stamps once in the store

ADA, as tyranny.

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I too agree with zito, the system needs retooling.
From preK thru PhD

any one else noticing it is happening as we speak ?

[sturg33]

Yes nothing like retooling a system by giving it a massive bailout and do nothing to address the issue.

I'm still not sure why student debt over credit card or. Mortgage debt? I guess they gotta protect their indoctrination machines

[acesfull86]

ah, personal responsibility --- bootstraps and all that

That's all you have? Refute what I said...show me where people were conned into taking on these loans...address the fact that the majority of the debt holders are relatively well off people who are paying back these loans and aren't at risk for default.

Anyone on the pro-debt forgiveness want to inject something productive into this debate other than:

"I don't care about the debt holders" or "but the Koch's!" or "well the college system we have is dumb anyway and we shouldn't have it therefore cancel the debt"

You guys actually read what you write?

[57Brave]

of course you understand --- in making your decision that you were against it you weighed both sides and came out on the side you did.

In order to do that you had to understand the point of cancelling debt./////

rather than being a MAGA led by the ear.
According to MAGA, all of their conclusions are well thought out and measured
so why try to tell people you "still not sure"

[57Brave]

That's all you have? Refute what I said...show me where people were conned into taking on these loans...address the fact that the majority of the debt holders are relatively well off people who are paying back these loans and aren't at risk for default.

Anyone on the pro-debt forgiveness want to inject something productive into this debate other than:

"I don't care about the debt holders" or "but the Koch's!" or "well the college system we have is dumb anyway and we shouldn't have it therefore cancel the debt"

You guys actually read what you write?

"when did you stop beating your wife" ?????

Is there a viable job training program in the high school you ( if in fact you did) graduated ?

Are there still functioning apprentice programs ?

Is federal minimum wage still $7.45/hr ?

So tell me ace, " when did you stop beating your wife "???

[57Brave]

and the counter argument is " it's not fair"

like I hinted , a grade school response to an advanced economic issue

[sturg33]

You have yet to make an argument in favor of it.

You have yet to. Dispute the points made against it.

All you do. Is scream MAGA and think that's a good point