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    this is a sworn affidavit and not random BS to a reporter or tv show.
    From where I sit another brick in the wall
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    expect to see this "smart tactic" used quite a bit in the coming days
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    Exactly what the lawyer was hoping you fools would think.
    He will get off easy now despite being a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    this is a sworn affidavit and not random BS to a reporter or tv show.
    From where I sit another brick in the wall
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    expect to see this "smart tactic" used quite a bit in the coming days
    You know how many sworn affidavits their were of election fraud?

    We’re those bricks in your wall?
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    what about sworn affidavit you don't understand ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    this is a sworn affidavit and not random BS to a reporter or tv show.
    From where I sit another brick in the wall
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    expect to see this "smart tactic" used quite a bit in the coming days
    I’m not a lawyer, but I’d imagine it’s really difficult to convince a jury that someone was lying about their personal motivation. It doesn’t necessarily have to be true to be effective. There’s plenty of evidence publicly available that would help his supporters claim *they thought* they were doing what he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    what about sworn affidavit you don't understand ?
    How can you prove or disprove that trump incited him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I’m not a lawyer, but I’d imagine it’s really difficult to convince a jury that someone was lying about their personal motivation. It doesn’t necessarily have to be true to be effective.
    Respect sir.

    I wish the opposing side was filled with nothing but people who had your reasoning skills despite not agreeing with your political ideology at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You know how many sworn affidavits their were of election fraud?

    We’re those bricks in your wall?
    certainly were.

    But, those swearers of the affidavits were not being charged with multiple felonies and using their comments as a defense.
    I am certain the over 60 judges in those election fraud cases considered those affidavits before summarily ignoring them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How can you prove or disprove that trump incited him?
    that will probably come up when and if charges are brought against Trump.
    But, you have to admit this isnt a good look
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    certainly were.

    But, those swearers of the affidavits were not being charged with multiple felonies and using their comments as a defense.
    I am certain the over 60 judges in those election fraud cases considered those affidavits before summarily ignoring them.

    So what you’re saying is that they risked more than this bozo who was about to get jail time?

    I AGREE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    that will probably come up when and if charges are brought against Trump.
    But, you have to admit this isnt a good look
    Avoiding a simple question that you know the answer too.

    The fact that you think it’s not a good look is why they are using it as a defense.
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    we will see
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    i think "just following orders" is probably not going to be a successful defense strategy...just a feeling
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    that will probably come up when and if charges are brought against Trump.
    But, you have to admit this isnt a good look
    I cannot fathom someone being dumb enough to try to charge Trump with incitement. Mitch McConnell effectively had it right, in that Trump has some moral culpability for what happened, but not in a legal sense of incitement. I do believe that there were people there that thought Trump would support the actions that they took. That’s completely different from Trump openly calling for them to do it or even actually endorsing it. We can agree that Trump had the ability to get out ahead of this and squash it, and failed to do so for political gain. We just appear to disagree with whether that is illegal or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I cannot fathom someone being dumb enough to try to charge Trump with incitement. Mitch McConnell effectively had it right, in that Trump has some moral culpability for what happened, but not in a legal sense of incitement. I do believe that there were people there that thought Trump would support the actions that they took. That’s completely different from Trump openly calling for them to do it or even actually endorsing it. We can agree that Trump had the ability to get out ahead of this and squash it, and failed to do so for political gain. We just appear to disagree with whether that is illegal or not.
    agree on legal culpability for incitement

    I do think he is in quite a bit of legal jeopardy re his phone calls and other attempts to overturn the Georgia election results...Lindsey Graham might be too depending on the existence of contemporaneous notes or other records of what transpired
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    agree on legal culpability for incitement

    I do think he is in quite a bit of legal jeopardy re his phone calls and other attempts to overturn the Georgia election results
    Maybe one day we can get an actual independent audit and then when they get to the point of no chain of custody of over 300k ballots that will be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I cannot fathom someone being dumb enough to try to charge Trump with incitement. Mitch McConnell effectively had it right, in that Trump has some moral culpability for what happened, but not in a legal sense of incitement. I do believe that there were people there that thought Trump would support the actions that they took. That’s completely different from Trump openly calling for them to do it or even actually endorsing it. We can agree that Trump had the ability to get out ahead of this and squash it, and failed to do so for political gain. We just appear to disagree with whether that is illegal or not.
    incitement charged as a lesser charge and plead away.

    I mean, how is incitement defined--- from where I sit ( i could be completely wrong here) this is text book.
    the only incitement charges I remember was the Chicago 8.
    some were convicted but thrown out on appeal
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    He encouraged, they complied.
    but
    Seems a hard charge to prosecute
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Maybe one day we can get an actual independent audit and then when they get to the point of no chain of custody of over 300k ballots that will be fun.
    even if there is an audit that satifies your predictions , he still interfered with an electoral count
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    even if there is an audit that shows your predictions so, he still interfered with an electoral count
    No. If my predictions are true then the electoral count was already interfered with. He was righting it.
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