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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So not even get original thought just ask what he thinks about their plans. So another level down on him being an actual key advisor.
    trying to excuse this away is a much worse look for you than accepting the L

    why on earth with anti-establishment Trump ever want a single piece of advice from establishment uniparty Rove?

    And how on earth can your cult use this as an attack on RDS (with zero evidence by the way)?

    take the L and move on... Trump loved the establishment... bent over for it over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    trying to excuse this away is a much worse look for you than accepting the L

    why on earth with anti-establishment Trump ever want a single piece of advice from establishment uniparty Rove?

    And how on earth can your cult use this as an attack on RDS (with zero evidence by the way)?

    take the L and move on... Trump loved the establishment... bent over for it over and over.
    Did Trump want that advice? Maybe you can show me where Trump asked them to reach out to Rove or Rove saying he has spoken directly to Trump.
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    by the way... im not the one saying working with Rove and Ryan makes you a cuck uniparty sellout who is now unelectable.

    that's team trump... they have finally learned the truth about the failures of their leader
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Did Trump want that advice? Maybe you can show me where Trump asked them to reach out to Rove or Rove saying he has spoken directly to Trump.
    Can you show me where DeSantis did?

    Because yesterday you stated it as a fact and offered no evidence.

    Now you want evidence.

    Weird, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    by the way... im not the one saying working with Rove and Ryan makes you a cuck uniparty sellout who is now unelectable.

    that's team trump... they have finally learned the truth about the failures of their leader
    In Sturg eyes Trump went from the best president in 50 years to a failure.

    Seems stable to me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Can you show me where DeSantis did?

    Because yesterday you stated it as a fact and offered no evidence.

    Now you want evidence.

    Weird, huh?
    I said I rely on people htat have continually been right and are as connected as anyone in the business. I didn't try to pretend I had anything other than that. You can accept that as truth or not. Because its against your GOD desantis you don't believe it to be true. See how fun this is!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Did you see the articles about Desantis staff turnover Sturg? Do you want to negatively comment on his leadership qualities as well?
    How about this Sturg or did you realize you actually criticized your GOD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How about this Sturg or did you realize you actually criticized your GOD?
    no I didn't see it... and anyonee with a lot of turnover should have their leadership skills questioned in some capacity, absolutely
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    In Sturg eyes Trump went from the best president in 50 years to a failure.

    Seems stable to me.....
    the best president of my lifetime who had catastrophic failures towards the end of his presidency that we are still paying dearly for. truth hurts ya I guess

    is what it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I said I rely on people htat have continually been right and are as connected as anyone in the business. I didn't try to pretend I had anything other than that. You can accept that as truth or not. Because its against your GOD desantis you don't believe it to be true. See how fun this is!!
    Well you stated it as a fact that Rove is advising his campaign.

    A few questions.

    1. Does Rove advising a campaign disqualify a candidates for your support?

    2. Would you like to amend your position that you believe he is advising, rather than he is definitely advising?

    3. Are you OK or disappointed that the Trump campaign has also seemed his consultation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    no I didn't see it... and anyonee with a lot of turnover should have their leadership skills questioned in some capacity, absolutely
    Even worse with Desantis (Based on former campaign staffers).

    Here are some of the "stories":

    1 - We talked to a dozen or so onetime aides and consultants to the Florida governor, and they all said the same thing: DeSantis treats staff like expendable widgets. He largely relies on a brain trust of two: himself and his wife, CASEY DESANTIS, a former local TV journalist. Beyond that there are few, if any, “DeSantis people,” as far as political pros are concerned.

    2 - — Within six months of taking office as governor in 2019, DeSantis fired five staffers. One was a 23-year-old scheduler who’d been with him since the beginning of his gubernatorial race. Shortly after she was sent packing, an unnamed member of DeSantis’ administration was quoted in a Florida blog trashing her performance. A month later, his deputy chief of staff left, prompting Florida reporters to press him about the rapid churn in his operation.

    3 - Another story relayed to us by five former staffers: At the beginning of his administration, DeSantis directed the Florida Republican Party leader to fire a party official who had cancer — on that person’s first week back from surgery.

    4 - DeSantis often blames his staff for his own blunders, we’re told. After DeSantis went on Fox News in 2018 and implored Florida voters not to “monkey this up” by supporting his African American Democratic opponent for governor, he and his wife chewed out his campaign staff for not cleaning up the mess, according to three former staffers. Shortly after, DeSantis brought in a whole new group of advisers.

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    All stupid rumors from looks like jilted former campaign staffers but not a good look...especially the cancer bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Well you stated it as a fact that Rove is advising his campaign.

    A few questions.

    1. Does Rove advising a campaign disqualify a candidates for your support?

    2. Would you like to amend your position that you believe he is advising, rather than he is definitely advising?

    3. Are you OK or disappointed that the Trump campaign has also seemed his consultation?
    (1) If you don't have an actual track record of America First policies then YES
    (2) No - He is advising the campaign as per sources that are as connected as it gets and have been right repeatedly in the past
    (3) Yes - I'm disappointed in a lot of people that were around Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    (1) If you don't have an actual track record of America First policies then YES
    (2) No - He is advising the campaign as per sources that are as connected as it gets and have been right repeatedly in the past
    (3) Yes - I'm disappointed in a lot of people that were around Trump
    1. Hahahahahahahahaha
    2. Send evidence or shut the **** up. Tired of the BS trump cult accusations based on nothing
    3. If it's a problem for RDS than it's a problem for Trump. You cannot square that away

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    1. Hahahahahahahahaha
    2. Send evidence or shut the **** up. Tired of the BS trump cult accusations based on nothing
    3. If it's a problem for RDS than it's a problem for Trump. You cannot square that away
    (1) Trump literally changed the playbook on policies and how people talk about politics in this country. IF you don't think that matters then you are a fool. Look at how many people talk about the wall / immigration / trade / Manufacturing. Pretending that Trump is just a run of the mill politician that ran up the ranks in politicis is comical bud.

    (2) Do you wonder why I've been so right the past few years on things? I said repeatedly this is my principal source of information. But you already know Bannon is incredible but will now pretend he isn't because he is attacking YOUR GOD!!!!

    (3) Trump needs to do better with the people around him
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    1. He apparently needed the help of Paul Ryan and Karl Rove to lose in 2020

    2. You assured me the election would be overturned. You assured me Trump would win in 2020. You assured me a massive red wave in in 2022. You told me Kari Lake would be installed as governor of AZ. Do you ever start doubting the advice you're getting?

    3. More truth has never been stated. Remember when he let Jared and Ivanka run wild? At some point you need to hold your guy accountable for his failures, rather than cry wolf about another candidate with much less abuses of competence
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    1. He apparently needed the help of Paul Ryan and Karl Rove to lose in 2020

    2. You assured me the election would be overturned. You assured me Trump would win in 2020. You assured me a massive red wave in in 2022. You told me Kari Lake would be installed as governor of AZ. Do you ever start doubting the advice you're getting?

    3. More truth has never been stated. Remember when he let Jared and Ivanka run wild? At some point you need to hold your guy accountable for his failures, rather than cry wolf about another candidate with much less abuses of competence
    Paul Ryan too now? Got support for that?

    I'll just chuckle at (2) because you thought all of these were stolen as well. So lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Paul Ryan too now? Got support for that?

    I'll just chuckle at (2) because you thought all of these were stolen as well. So lol
    Trump was a BIG fan of Paul Ryan. I got a lot of support for that. Would you like me to provide?

    Steve Bannon convinced you all of these things would happen and none of them did.

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    You can't say "I've been right about everything, thanks to Steve Bannon"

    And then say

    "Except all the things that were wrong, which don't count"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Trump was a BIG fan of Paul Ryan. I got a lot of support for that. Would you like me to provide?

    Steve Bannon convinced you all of these things would happen and none of them did.
    We are talking about in 2020 - I know Trump thought Ryan was an ally in the first half of his presidency. But you said he needed Ryans help in 2020 so I'd like some support for that statement.
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