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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    As someone who has spent 12 years in sales, I learned early on that only the results matter, not the reasons for the the lack of them
    I’ll take that as you think those events significantly impacted Americans voting decisions. That’s all I needed to hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    we disagree on Social Security

    The name says it all.
    Millions upon millions of people have , do and will need the security we all chip into
    which personally I have always been more than happy to contribute my share.
    All the while investing in my future as well.
    Not every American is/was as fortunate as me and mine
    to be able to have those options.

    Perhaps your issue is how it has been managed.
    Look no further than policies implemented during the 1980s.
    Or go back if you will to the Herbert Hoovers
    who had issues due to political expedience.

    The recent border kerfluffle reminds me of SS politics of the 1930s
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    It could arguably use some evolution. But like everything else dealing with conservative (R)
    " either do it our way or else ..."
    and the " or else" is an impediment
    Social Security has always been a failing program, especially as the average life span has increased over the last 90 years since it's implementation. The majority of Americans in the 30's and 40's when this was implemented were dying before they were even able to draw from social security. Now, the average life span is 79 years old, which means the average American draws for around 15 years.

    The policies of the 80's had nothing to do with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Social Security has always been a failing program, especially as the average life span has increased over the last 90 years since it's implementation. The policies of the 80's had nothing to do with that.
    “It could arguably use some evolution” goes in the pantheon of all time understatements

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Goldy posted about this incessantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It's a good question. I too wonder how many votes in the primary were changed by the incessant lies about RDS being controlled by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, being a globalist sellout who sold his soul for a book deal, and will for sure abandon Republican voters if elected in favor of Ukraine

    You can't fix stupid people... have to overcome it somehow. The media is not gonna stop lying this cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It's a good question. I too wonder how many votes in the primary were changed by the incessant lies about RDS being controlled by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, being a globalist sellout who sold his soul for a book deal, and will for sure abandon Republican voters if elected in favor of Ukraine

    You can't fix stupid people... have to overcome it somehow. The media is not gonna stop lying this cycle
    Keep pretending that RDS ever had even a .000001% chance. The Republican party is now Trumps party. RDS was pushed to run to damage Trump in the GE and for no other reason.

    The lies were ratcheted up to such a level because of the threat Trump posed and you are well aware of that.

    No - The media is not going to stop lying but because they had to lie to such an extreme ridiculous level more and more people are realizing they are just agents of the globliasts and it will not work anymore.

    You can say thank you to Trump for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Keep pretending that RDS ever had even a .000001% chance. The Republican party is now Trumps party. RDS was pushed to run to damage Trump in the GE and for no other reason.

    The lies were ratcheted up to such a level because of the threat Trump posed and you are well aware of that.

    No - The media is not going to stop lying but because they had to lie to such an extreme ridiculous level more and more people are realizing they are just agents of the globliasts and it will not work anymore.

    You can say thank you to Trump for that one.
    I think RDS ran because he was the most effective and electorally strong Republican governor in the country. He saw Trump was old and had legal issues abound, and felt he'd be the better option to execute the MAGA agenda after Trump failed so miserably the first time. He also ran because people like you, poso, cerno, etc were all calling for him to run in 2022.

    But he lost so it is what it is
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    He did lose and hurt his future prospects as a result.

    Thats what happens when you listen to the never trump brigade. Poor judgement if you ask me.
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    Georgia turning redder by the moment with the Athens mayor speaking to 2019 rhetoric as the reasoning behind the "sanctuary city" designation.

    Just so tone deaf. Read the room bro.

    They may pitchfork this mofo outta there before the weeks over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Georgia turning redder by the moment with the Athens mayor speaking to 2019 rhetoric as the reasoning behind the "sanctuary city" designation.

    Just so tone deaf. Read the room bro.

    They may pitchfork this mofo outta there before the weeks over.
    In the last couple of years Ohio/Florida have went from Purple to dark red.

    GA going the same way and we are reversing trends in Texas while states like Jersey/NY are getting less blue (jersey particularly might go red this cycle).

    It's all about ignoring the extremes on abortion and understanding that the economics of the 1990 Rebublicans don't work in the modern day. Trump understands these things which is why he is appealing to a massive amount of I's and moderate Dems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Georgia turning redder by the moment with the Athens mayor speaking to 2019 rhetoric as the reasoning behind the "sanctuary city" designation.

    Just so tone deaf. Read the room bro.

    They may pitchfork this mofo outta there before the weeks over.
    But thethe also wanted him to run

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    But thethe also wanted him to run
    Once Trump decided he wasn't going to go away quietly and enjoy the rest of his life and realized that he had the best chance of winning a general he didn't - I'm sorry that I read the room better than you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Once Trump decided he wasn't going to go away quietly and enjoy the rest of his life and realized that he had the best chance of winning a general he didn't - I'm sorry that I read the room better than you did.
    reading the room by jumping behind the overwhelming favorite is good, I guess?

    for the record I think Dean Phillips would be a way better President than Joe Biden, and I also think Joe Biden will win the nomination
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    reading the room by jumping behind the overwhelming favorite is good, I guess?

    for the record I think Dean Phillips would be a way better President than Joe Biden, and I also think Joe Biden will win the nomination
    If the goal is to win so we can stop the communists then yes the OVERWHELMING favorite and only shot we have at a general is who you should support. I don't make the rules. You can stand by principles while being thrown in a gulag if that makes you feel better?
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    Good lord how much MSNBC do you watch?
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


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    the multi-decade leftist strategy of keeping women single and miserable has been enormously effective political strategy

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