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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Sweet. More excuses for trump!

    Remember how he fired like everyone he hired? Was that poor judgement from him?

    Meanwhile, DeSantis actions... Which actions? Two statements about Ukraine and Bragg? Both of which take the line of the maga crowd?

    What actions are you so upset with?
    THe only people that think that Ukraine statement is MAGA are the gullible ones. Sorry bud - It was easy to see through that.

    Desantis main person is a Ukrainian that is fully in the tank for the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It might be time to stop taking election-winning advice from the crowd who has lost three consecutive election cycles, and maybe take a look at the crowd that turned a virtual tie into 20 point landslide in four years
    Again - You make horrible comparisons. I knew from the second those results in 22 came out the majority would misinterpret.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Excuses? Absurd - Its straight up reality and hte world is messy. You are just way to black and white. Thats why in arguments of tariffs you use incresed costs as a negative.
    Every single time I have offered real world legitimate complaints about trump, you simply make excuses.

    "We had to beef up the military spending to beat ISIS!"

    "He would have won if not for COVID!"

    "He couldn't trust the data!"

    "The establishment blocked the wall from being built!"

    "He didn't know about ballot harvesting!"

    "He didn't have the authority to fire Fauci!"

    "He wasn't allowed to pull troops out of Afghanistan!"

    On and on and on again

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    THe only people that think that Ukraine statement is MAGA are the gullible ones. Sorry bud - It was easy to see through that.

    Desantis main person is a Ukrainian that is fully in the tank for the war.
    I asked you what actions he has taken outside of two statements that you are so upset with

    We have 4+ years of executive leadership you can poke holes into

    But your entire worldview is what your maga twitterverse told you how to interpret erpret two statements

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Every single time I have offered real world legitimate complaints about trump, you simply make excuses.

    "We had to beef up the military spending to beat ISIS!"

    "He would have won if not for COVID!"

    "He couldn't trust the data!"

    "The establishment blocked the wall from being built!"

    "He didn't know about ballot harvesting!"

    "He didn't have the authority to fire Fauci!"

    "He wasn't allowed to pull troops out of Afghanistan!"

    On and on and on again
    Absolutely hysterical you would count some of htese as excuses.

    I really do you like Sturg so I think at this point I will stop engaging on this specific topic because I just don't want to fight with you. Lets see where the chips fall and pray its the best for the world.
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    Of course you don't want to have these debates.

    Because you are incapable of bringing substance. Your entire worldview is all emotion based and your twitter verse following (I know who they are) has completely destroyed your ability to analyze anything in a rational fashion

    It's been sad to watch and I'm trying to being you back to reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Of course you don't want to have these debates.

    Because you are incapable of bringing substance. Your entire worldview is all emotion based and your twitter verse following (I know who they are) has completely destroyed your ability to analyze anything in a rational fashion

    It's been sad to watch and I'm trying to being you back to reality
    I'd be happy to engage in anything other than someone who says spending on the military because of ISIS is an excuse or people that say we shouldn't stop using slave labor because of increased costs.

    Your worldview is hte one that is warped my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'd be happy to engage in anything other than someone who says spending on the military because of ISIS is an excuse or people that say we shouldn't stop using slave labor because of increased costs.

    Your worldview is hte one that is warped my friend.
    Trump had four years to cut a penny in defense spending.

    He increased by at least 6% every single year.

    These are just facts. Not a warped worldview. An anti establishment leader would have gotten it done... And trump threatened to each year, but after pushback from the MIC, he buckled

    Regarding tarrifs, I will simply point out the trade deficit increased under Trump.

    Again. Facts..not a warped worldview

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    By the way, I don't think RDS has cut spending in FL any so I'm not confident in his willingness to do that at the national level

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    By the way, I don't think RDS has cut spending in FL any so I'm not confident in his willingness to do that at the national level
    The only answers are to spend more, and by in large increase taxes.
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    It's comical

    "I can't fix my life, but I can fix the world" said the socialist

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    We have seen this play out before with Jeff Sessions. You cant oversee an investigation in which you are a witness but that didnt stop Trump from demanding he not recuse himself. I dont know the specifics of extradition law but I recall seeing headlines of some states that they wont extradite based on warrants for abortion. Its really a moot point because he has to leave Florida at some point to campaign. Airports are considered federal property so he could be arrested by Federal Marshals if he tried to fly anywhere. As it is now he will be able to fly back to Florida after arraignment. If he refuses to surrender I doubt a judge would let him leave the state of NY.
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    Think it was chop who mentioned him but youngkin is the happiest guy in the gop race now. He still doesn’t have a shot but more so now.
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    Sturg and duhduh sleeping in separate rooms now? Holy **** duhduh has somehow gone off the Trump worship deep end even more. Textbook brainwashing... absolutely nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Sturg and duhduh sleeping in separate rooms now? Holy **** duhduh has somehow gone off the Trump worship deep end even more. Textbook brainwashing... absolutely nuts.
    I thought you disappeared after all the times I schooled you....

    Welcome back.

    I'm happy to support the best President this country has seen in 50 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I thought you disappeared after all the times I schooled you....

    Welcome back.

    I'm happy to support the best President this country has seen in 50 years.
    I like to pop in from time to time to catch up on the entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I thought you disappeared after all the times I schooled you....

    Welcome back.

    I'm happy to support the best President this country has seen in 50 years.
    Supporting and idolizing are two different things.

    You've gone off a deep end, much like trump himself has - as he's now slandering RDS as possible gay and a pedophile

    It's one thing to prefer Trump as the best candidate. It's another thing to declare.him the ONLY candidate, which you have devolved into at rapid pace

    You loved Ron DeSantis until Donald Trump instructed you not to

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Supporting and idolizing are two different things.

    You've gone off a deep end, much like trump himself has - as he's now slandering RDS as possible gay and a pedophile

    It's one thing to prefer Trump as the best candidate. It's another thing to declare.him the ONLY candidate, which you have devolved into at rapid pace

    You loved Ron DeSantis until Donald Trump instructed you not to
    It’s all about hush money to porn stars right? That’s what this is about? COO not CEO. Sorry you still don’t see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It’s all about hush money to porn stars right? That’s what this is about? COO not CEO. Sorry you still don’t see it.
    But that's literally not what he said.

    You heard what you wanted to hear. You see what you want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    But that's literally not what he said.

    You heard what you wanted to hear. You see what you want to see.
    He said what he said in his DC focus group canned question. You see what YOU want to see.
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