Around the League - 2021 Szn

[thewupk]

Center field is probably the lineup spot where we need an upgrade, but Imreally don’t know how to value pache. a full year in the minors last year would have really helped with that.

Pache needs to stay down. Starling Marte is the clear choice for an upgrade but I'm sure he will be heavily sought after at the deadline.

[Coredor]

Were you guys talking about Starling or Ketwl Marte earlier? They both could make sense but different types of deals.

[Enscheff]

Setting the minimum PAs at 50, there are 58 guys in MLB who meet FG's definition of "CFer".

Of those, only 29 guys have an xwOBA over .310 as a CFer.

Counting the sellers to be: Marlins, Reds, Pirates, Rockies, DBacks, Os, Tigers, Twins, Ms, Rangers and Angels (and removing guys like Buxton and Trout) gives us this list:

Naquin - cheap rental, bats LHH, might be a decent Ender replacement
Senzel - almost certainly not available
Marte - premium rental bat on the market
Reynolds - pre-arb guy who's the ideal leadoff candidate...probably unavailable
Lewis - pre-arb guy who's probably not getting traded
Garcia - oddest breakout of the season, and I don't think I'd want to risk buying fools gold

So we are looking at Naquin to replace Ender, or Marte to be an additional impact bat.

I imagine every contender will be after Marte, and the price will be understandably high...if the Marlins even become sellers. I would LOVE Reynolds, but so would 20 other teams.

Naquin and his .794 OPS vs RHP would fit well on this roster as a replacement for Ender. Heredia would have to be used to limit his exposure to LHP.

My choice is to grab Naquin for whatever poo-poo platter of arms the Reds want just like they took for Adam Duvall, then ride a Naquin/Heredia platoon in CF to glory untold.

But really, I think AA should focus on arms...specifically 1-2 RHP out of the BP and maybe a SP like Jon Gray.

[50PoundHead]

I thought I read where he had a $3 million buyout after this season?

You are correct. I neglected to scroll all the way to the right hand column.

[Tapate50]

“To cf glory untold “

I literally laughed pretty hard at that

[msstate7]

How worried would you be if you were a Mets fan about lindor?

[CyYoung31]

How worried would you be if you were a Mets fan about lindor?

I’d be more worried about McNeil and Conforto. Both are out another month.

[thewupk]

How worried would you be if you were a Mets fan about lindor?

Same way I'm worrying about ozuna but 10 times worse

[CyYoung31]

Same way I'm worrying about ozuna but 10 times worse

Sometimes great players have terrible half seasons. Jose Ramirez comes to mind. I find it hard to believe that Lindor suddenly forgot how to be an elite player in his physical prime.

[PawPawMaxwell]

So it seems there is no interest to shift Acuna back to CF for another go. I would think looking at RFers would be practical this year and then see how it all fits when or if Pache/Waters/Harris progress.

[msstate7]

I’d be more worried about McNeil and Conforto. Both are out another month.

Maybe they'll crash and burn in the mean time

[msstate7]

Sometimes great players have terrible half seasons. Jose Ramirez comes to mind. I find it hard to believe that Lindor suddenly forgot how to be an elite player in his physical prime.

Are there examples of great players changing leagues and being avg players?

[CyYoung31]

Are there examples of great players changing leagues and being avg players?

No.

[Enscheff]

Outside of 2018, Lindor wasn’t really that elite offensively. This is the 4th year in a row where his average exit velocity on LD/FB has declined.

He’s also rocking an absurdly low .210 BABIP.

So his 2021 is some combination of early decline, bad luck, and not really being an elite offensive player to begin with.

[msstate7]

Outside of 2018, Lindor wasn’t really that elite offensively. This is the 4th year in a row where his average exit velocity on LD/FB has declined.

He’s also rocking an absurdly low .210 BABIP.

So his 2021 is some combination of early decline, bad luck, and not really being an elite offensive player to begin with.

So is he worth his deal if he isn't elite offensively?

[CyYoung31]

Outside of 2018, Lindor wasn’t really that elite offensively. This is the 4th year in a row where his average exit velocity on LD/FB has declined.

He’s also rocking an absurdly low .210 BABIP.

So his 2021 is some combination of early decline, bad luck, and not really being an elite offensive player to begin with.

Interesting. I just meant that he’s elite offensively for a SS, and very good defensively, making him an elite player. But, yeah, I guess it wouldn’t be that hard for a quick decline with the bat for him. He’s still not going to be this bad though.

[thewupk]

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[NYCBrave]

Sometimes great players have terrible half seasons. Jose Ramirez comes to mind. I find it hard to believe that Lindor suddenly forgot how to be an elite player in his physical prime.

Short sample, but Lindor was also pretty average last year. Well below career norms

[Carp]

Sometimes great players have terrible half seasons. Jose Ramirez comes to mind. I find it hard to believe that Lindor suddenly forgot how to be an elite player in his physical prime.

While he was an elite player prior to this year, he's never been an elite hitter, so there should be some legit concern on that front.

But he's probably gonna rebound.

[CyYoung31]

While he was an elite player prior to this year, he's never been an elite hitter, so there should be some legit concern on that front.

But he's probably gonna rebound.

But he’s been a very, very good hitter. I’d have to see a full season of this to start panicking.