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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Amazing how relevant a lot of this remains two years later, especially the Chip bits. Although Chip now mixes in a healthy dose of "Did he keep it fair?!?" on balls that go over the fence squarely in the right-center gap.

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    Lets talk bad contracts... The Nats owe Strasburg how much?

    This is Corbins remaining money-

    The 32-year-old southpaw wraps up the 2021 campaign with a highly disappointing 9-16 record, 5.82 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, and 143/60 K/BB ratio in 31 starts covering 171 2/3 innings. He is under contract with Washington for $23.4 million in 2022, $24.4 million in 2023, and $35.4 million in 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Lets talk bad contracts... The Nats owe Strasburg how much?

    This is Corbins remaining money-

    The 32-year-old southpaw wraps up the 2021 campaign with a highly disappointing 9-16 record, 5.82 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, and 143/60 K/BB ratio in 31 starts covering 171 2/3 innings. He is under contract with Washington for $23.4 million in 2022, $24.4 million in 2023, and $35.4 million in 2024.
    Nats have a couple of bad contracts and not much help on the horizon on the farm. Good for them for winning the WS when they did because they are in rebuild mode. The only thing to be concerned about with the Nats is what will Soto do? I doubt they will be ready to contend by the time he is ready to hit FA. So he can either "suffer" through it with an extension and hope the team can rebuild or get bolt after 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Nats have a couple of bad contracts and not much help on the horizon on the farm. Good for them for winning the WS when they did because they are in rebuild mode. The only thing to be concerned about with the Nats is what will Soto do? I doubt they will be ready to contend by the time he is ready to hit FA. So he can either "suffer" through it with an extension and hope the team can rebuild or get bolt after 2024.
    I can only imagine what the offers would be if the Nats dangled him....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    lmao

    I remember Jake Peavy breaking a rib while celebrating the Padres winning the NL West several years back but that was on the field and seemed like a freak occurrence.

    Will be nice not having to face his 14.5 K/9 in the NLDS. Dude is nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Nats have a couple of bad contracts and not much help on the horizon on the farm. Good for them for winning the WS when they did because they are in rebuild mode. The only thing to be concerned about with the Nats is what will Soto do? I doubt they will be ready to contend by the time he is ready to hit FA. So he can either "suffer" through it with an extension and hope the team can rebuild or get bolt after 2024.
    Soto is a Boras client, and very unlikely he signs an extension. Like thethe, i can only imagine the offers they'd get for him. Would be one of the biggest hauls ever if he got dealt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I can only imagine what the offers would be if the Nats dangled him....
    Similar to when talks were going around on what it would take to get Trout from the Angels. Does any team realistically have what it would take to get him and have it be a smart move right now with 3 years before he hits FA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    lmao

    I remember Jake Peavy breaking a rib while celebrating the Padres winning the NL West several years back but that was on the field and seemed like a freak occurrence.

    Will be nice not having to face his 14.5 K/9 in the NLDS. Dude is nasty.
    Dude is a stud for them. Glad we get to miss him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Lets talk bad contracts... The Nats owe Strasburg how much?

    This is Corbins remaining money-

    The 32-year-old southpaw wraps up the 2021 campaign with a highly disappointing 9-16 record, 5.82 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, and 143/60 K/BB ratio in 31 starts covering 171 2/3 innings. He is under contract with Washington for $23.4 million in 2022, $24.4 million in 2023, and $35.4 million in 2024.
    Jesus F Christ. That's awful

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    lmao

    I remember Jake Peavy breaking a rib while celebrating the Padres winning the NL West several years back but that was on the field and seemed like a freak occurrence.

    Will be nice not having to face his 14.5 K/9 in the NLDS. Dude is nasty.
    This is actually spectacular news for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Nats have a couple of bad contracts and not much help on the horizon on the farm. Good for them for winning the WS when they did because they are in rebuild mode. The only thing to be concerned about with the Nats is what will Soto do? I doubt they will be ready to contend by the time he is ready to hit FA. So he can either "suffer" through it with an extension and hope the team can rebuild or get bolt after 2024.
    Don't they also have a ton of deferred money that will come due soon? I seem to remember them offering that in all these contracts with Scherzer, Corbin, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Don't they also have a ton of deferred money that will come due soon? I seem to remember them offering that in all these contracts with Scherzer, Corbin, etc
    Scherzer is going to be paid 15 million per year from 2022-2028

    Corbin's actually making 25 million instead of 35 million in 2024 with 10 million of that being deferred to 2025

    Strasburg is making 23.5 million until 2026. In 2027 he will get deferment payments of 26.6 million from 27-29


    Insurance may pick up some of Strasburg depending on how healthy he remains but that's a lot of dead money for little production/players not even being on the roster the rest of the decade. Specifically 2027 and 2028 where the Nats will pay out 40 million to Scherzer and Strasburg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Scherzer is going to be paid 15 million per year from 2022-2028

    Corbin's actually making 25 million instead of 35 million in 2024 with 10 million of that being deferred to 2025

    Strasburg is making 23.5 million until 2026. In 2027 he will get deferment payments of 26.6 million from 27-29


    Insurance may pick up some of Strasburg depending on how healthy he remains but that's a lot of dead money for little production/players not even being on the roster the rest of the decade. Specifically 2027 and 2028 where the Nats will pay out 40 million to Scherzer and Strasburg.
    Did they trade the deferred money to the Dodger$ or just this years remaining salary
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Did they trade the deferred money to the Dodger$ or just this years remaining salary
    So it looks like Scherzers base salary this year was 34 million and all of it was deferred. The Dodgers apparently are on the hook for the prorated amount of this seasons portion of that. So that looks like 11.2 million or so that they will cover of Scherzers future payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Nats have a couple of bad contracts and not much help on the horizon on the farm. Good for them for winning the WS when they did because they are in rebuild mode. The only thing to be concerned about with the Nats is what will Soto do? I doubt they will be ready to contend by the time he is ready to hit FA. So he can either "suffer" through it with an extension and hope the team can rebuild or get bolt after 2024.
    I really hope Nats fans enjoy staring at that WS flag for the next few years as they have zero meaningful baseball to watch.

    But that flag! It's flying forever!! Even though they are now watching a AAA team...good times looking at that flag though!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Scherzer is going to be paid 15 million per year from 2022-2028

    Corbin's actually making 25 million instead of 35 million in 2024 with 10 million of that being deferred to 2025

    Strasburg is making 23.5 million until 2026. In 2027 he will get deferment payments of 26.6 million from 27-29


    Insurance may pick up some of Strasburg depending on how healthy he remains but that's a lot of dead money for little production/players not even being on the roster the rest of the decade. Specifically 2027 and 2028 where the Nats will pay out 40 million to Scherzer and Strasburg.
    Thanks. Do you have any idea how deferred money works? Does it count towards team payroll in those future seasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Thanks. Do you have any idea how deferred money works? Does it count towards team payroll in those future seasons?
    It counts as in the team has to pay it that season. I don't think it counts towards luxury tax though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I really hope Nats fans enjoy staring at that WS flag for the next few years as they have zero meaningful baseball to watch.

    But that flag! It's flying forever!! Even though they are now watching a AAA team...good times looking at that flag though!!
    To be fair, they had a pretty nice, sustained run. 5 playoff appearances in 8 years. All 8 of those years were winning seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    To be fair, they had a pretty nice, sustained run. 5 playoff appearances in 8 years. All 8 of those years were winning seasons.
    Yeah, getting to draft a generational position player and pitcher in back to back years helps, as does moving into a brand new ballpark.

    They’ve spent themselves into the cellar, and I hope the fans love staring at that flag while challenging the Marlins for last place.

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