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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I will say this. I do expect Acuna's BB% to be in the high teens just like last year. We've seen it with players like Harper and Soto that when you've shown you can hit the piss out of the ball then pitchers will be extremely careful. If you have the discipline to not chase then the walks are gonna be sky high. Brining his K rate down is all Acuna really needs to do to be a top 1% hitter in the sport.

    With that being said let's not compare him to who will end up the best player in history. Trout
    In the bits and pieces I've watched this year, I have noticed that he is laying off pitches that he swung at in the past. That hasn't led directly to walks (yet), but has likely contributed to the drop in his K-rate. Of course, we've been playing for less than two week so who knows. All I know is that he's hitting the crap out of the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    No ****, asshole.

    The K rate is close to stabilizing. The other stats will follow suit.

    I will tease you mercilessly when Acuna wins MVP and puts up a historic, better-than-Troutian season.

    Why are you even a fan?
    Let's not start sucking each others dicks quite yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    In the bits and pieces I've watched this year, I have noticed that he is laying off pitches that he swung at in the past. That hasn't led directly to walks (yet), but has likely contributed to the drop in his K-rate. Of course, we've been playing for less than two week so who knows. All I know is that he's hitting the crap out of the ball.
    Absolutely. Another thing I've noticed, which they have talked about a few times, is that Acuna has worked on handling the inside pitch. He's done a better job of brining his hands in when he's pitched in. All while crushing anything on the outer 2/3rds of the plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    No ****, asshole.

    The K rate is close to stabilizing. The other stats will follow suit.

    I will tease you mercilessly when Acuna wins MVP and puts up a historic, better-than-Troutian season.

    Why are you even a fan?
    You just don’t get it. You are like a child who just wants to argue. I seriously doubt anyone here thinks Acuna won’t win multiple MVPs baring injuries. There isn’t anyone here who doesn’t think if he improves in X areas he will become a 1%’r. Maybe even the best of them. However there isn’t anyone here who throws up 10 games worth of stats to prove those predictions. There isn’t anyone in here who didn’t/doesn’t think you are a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    No ****, asshole.

    The K rate is close to stabilizing. The other stats will follow suit.

    I will tease you mercilessly when Acuna wins MVP and puts up a historic, better-than-Troutian season.

    Why are you even a fan?
    You act I don't enjoy how Acuna is performing. That couldn't be further from the truth.

    The difference is I don't overreact to a small sample size of data. K-Rates can still fluctuate pretty strongly even after 60 at bats. Acuna could K 5 times in his next 5 at bats and his K rate would shoot well over 20% again.

    Players go on hot streaks all the time. You need only look at someone like Bryce Harper to see how a hot stretch can carry you to a historic season. But you won't see anyone (other than thethe) who will say Harper is in the same stratosphere as Trout as a hitter.

    With that being said, Acuna is absolutely talented enough to be as good of a hitter as Trout at some point. But 10 games is hardly enough of a sample to make such a claim.

    Let's understand that since 1970, only 14 times has a player posted a 10 WAR season. Trout, Ripken, and roided Bonds make up for over half of those seasons.
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    Dear Lord, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    If this thread gets to 5+ pages, we will forget about trout all together.
    Some top shelf posts from you in this thread. Almost like you're the Acuna of message board posters in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Some top shelf posts from you in this thread. Almost like you're the Acuna of message board posters in this thread.
    Just a small sample size god. Don’t start a dumb thread praising me please.
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    This thread feels like it's just setting up for disappointment when Acuna ends the season only hitting .280/.400/.530.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    A stud?

    This was his line .262/.364/.437/.801

    Granted that's very good for a CFer, but purely as a hitter, it was far from "stud" category. And given his injury history, he won't be able to play CF much longer, so that slash line is much weaker at a corner spot.

    He won ROY in a year with weak competition against him. Most of the top AL prospects didn't come up last year, or only came up at the end of the year. Basically it was either him or Luis Robert, so they gave it to the better hitter.
    If "the stud" is unable to play CF, those certainly aren't very impressive numbers for a full-time DH are they?

    I mean, that's what he's going to become if he isn't a CF - he's not going to take either corner from Kelenic or Rodriguez.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Why does this thread remind me of the one where some guy insisted Acuna would go 40/40 in his rookie season?

    Wasn't a bet of come sort the result of that thread? How did that turn out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    If this thread gets to 5+ pages, we will forget about trout all together.
    And immediately start talking about Michael Harris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    You just don’t get it. You are like a child who just wants to argue. I seriously doubt anyone here thinks Acuna won’t win multiple MVPs baring injuries. There isn’t anyone here who doesn’t think if he improves in X areas he will become a 1%’r. Maybe even the best of them. However there isn’t anyone here who throws up 10 games worth of stats to prove those predictions. There isn’t anyone in here who didn’t/doesn’t think you are a moron.
    Oh I get it.

    I am also a FAN, which is short for FANATIC

    Per Google, a fanatic is . . . "a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause."

    My cause is Ronald Acuna Jr being better than Mike Trout.

    This is a Braves forum, where everyone should feel similarly.

    10 games is 10 games. Will be extremely fun to keep track of and see where he ends up.

    Don't like it, don't post.

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    bro it’s been like 2-3 years how are you still 16 years old? are you benny button?
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    History has taught me that hot starts are actually just an invitation to fall to earth like Icarus, so this is bad news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    A stud?

    This was his line .262/.364/.437/.801

    Granted that's very good for a CFer, but purely as a hitter, it was far from "stud" category. And given his injury history, he won't be able to play CF much longer, so that slash line is much weaker at a corner spot.

    He won ROY in a year with weak competition against him. Most of the top AL prospects didn't come up last year, or only came up at the end of the year. Basically it was either him or Luis Robert, so they gave it to the better hitter.
    Robert is the better bet in terms of long-term value.
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    Acuna probably didn't cut his K rate in half during the offseason, though I expect a better rate than what he did in 2020.

    He is currently rocking a .448 BABIP and I think we all know what that means by now.

    His plate discipline inputs have remained fairly steady:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ro...pe=mult&gt1=15

    And 10 games is obviously too soon to make any ration adult judgments.

    However, Acuna is an MVP talent currently going through a good stretch. This is what those stretches look like when they happen early in the year, complete with fan overreactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    History has taught me that hot starts are actually just an invitation to fall to earth like Icarus, so this is bad news.

    His slide was well underway by then. But when this issue was released Jeff had a stat line of 351/377/655 - 1032. The rest of the season he hit 229/283/404 - 687

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    His slide was well underway by then. But when this issue was released Jeff had a stat line of 351/377/655 - 1032. The rest of the season he hit 229/283/404 - 687
    The fact that his obp was only .26 points higher should have said all that you needed to know.
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